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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? *DELETED* [Re: Despair]
    #15379844 - 11/16/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Psilicubes]
    #15380359 - 11/16/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Despair, I don't have much, but I can donate $20 to you and your kids' cause.  Do you have Paypal?

Beyond that, you likely need financial solutions for help.  Unfortunately, I'm not the best person to ask about that, but we do have a Money Matters section of the forum with some people that are very good with money.

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Pacmanpth] * 1
    #15383584 - 11/17/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Despair,

I am not going to try and talk you out of suicide.  That would be very hypocritical.

I would like to ask you a few questions that you should answer for yourself.

1.  How old are your children and do you want them to know you committed suicide?
2.  Would the father use your suicide against them?
3.  Do you have family or a church that is willing to help? 
4.  Why are you committing suicide?  Is it for the right reasons?  The wrong reason is to get even with those that would not listen, those that hurt you, and those that refused to help you when they knew you needed it and they had the ability.

I understand feeling suicidal and have even woken up handcuffed to beds (yes plural) in ICU's and then gotten to talk to people that really do not know what they are talking about (yes and when they were not in the room we would be laughing at their stupidity).  I am not killing myself now only because of what my last attempt did to my sister.  She is on permanent medication now from a complete breakdown.  I never meant to hurt her.  Heck I did not even think about her.  I plan on dying the day she dies and to be honest though I love her, sometimes I hate her for forcing me to continue to live in a world where I do not belong, where I am lonely, where I am judged for my sexuality (and even I am not sure what it is so I am celibate), and where I have no hope.  But I continue to live for her, at least today, I do not know about tomorrow.

The first time I attempted suicide it was over severe money problems.  That time at least for that reason the shrink actually helped.  He asked me if anyone would remember or care 100 years from now about me bouncing checks or people being paid late.  Then he said if no one cared, it really did not matter.  I have not worried about money since.  (True that was just the trigger, the depression and feelings are still there, but it removed one triggering event.)

Can you live for your children even if they are taken away?  If not, try and rent a video camera so you can tell them goodbye and let them know you love them.  Maybe that will help with their future lives.

Ask for help from a church, that is supposed to be part of their business.  Ask for help from family.  Do not worry about pride at this point.  If you pay them back you, you not only get to retain your pride but get their respect too.

If you do end up committing suicide, I wish you the oblivion I wish for myself.  I have no hope for a heaven, but do not desire hell.  Oblivion whether through this life being all or God's grace in shredding my soul to where their is no second life are my prayers for both of us.

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: DisplacedTexan]
    #15391326 - 11/18/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

No offense but

why did you have kids when you can't even support yourself most likely?  You probably rely on the husband for bringing home the bread right? 

It boggles my mind when financially inept uneducated retarded people have babies and they can't support them.  I see Walmart people have babies.  Those kids are going to grow up knowing nothing but Walmart, being poor, 1 dollar clothing shit, and other crap. 

Seriously, there's 7 billion people on this planet now.  You think your kids are ganna be the next Einstein?  Gimme a fucking break here. 

This is why I don't want to live on this planet anymore.  Retarded people bred more often than smart people. 

Trust me, I know...


Oh and to the dude above me, how do you know God exist?  He doesn't.  There is no proof he exist.  PERIOD. 

If you wanna commit suicide, at least go out with a motherfucking bang.  That's what I'm going to do.  I'm not talkin' homicide.  No, I'm talkin jumpin out of a air plane or somethin cool.

Edited by Brohaamm (11/18/11 10:44 PM)

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Brohaamm]
    #15391483 - 11/18/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

well besides most of that being bs, im sure if I knew someone who jumped off of a plane, I would think...wow...what a cool guy.

Btw, how do you say: "no offence but
...... You are a retard...retarded....retard."?

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Dimo114]
    #15393973 - 11/19/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dimo114 said:
well besides most of that being bs, im sure if I knew someone who jumped off of a plane, I would think...wow...what a cool guy.

Btw, how do you say: "no offence but
...... You are a retard...retarded....retard."?




Troll spotted. 

U MAD brah?

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Brohaamm]
    #15394131 - 11/19/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Naw im not mad that youre retarded. No offence. :wink:

"retarded people are bred more then smart people.
Trust me I know..."          - brohaamm

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Dimo114]
    #15396361 - 11/20/11 03:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dimo114 said:
Naw im not mad that youre retarded. No offence. :wink:





You must be mad about how many English classes you've failed then.

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Dont know whether or not to care [Re: Pacmanpth]
    #15403777 - 11/21/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have for my entire teenage and twenties lived solely because I didn't want to hurt my grandma and my parents. My grandmother passed away this year and I love my parents, but I do know that if I went months without talking to my family they don't seem to notice. So all I am living for right now is my family and friends who I am lucky if I see or talk to once a month. Everyone is married and most have children. I have done counsiling and have done medication. I try talking to my friends and family but they just say all I want is attention. I have tried three times before and all it has left me with is a raging ulcer and scars. I think I will try to see if I can't get a hold of some sedatives and try the hanging thing though. It might actually work. I'm posting because I am hoping to find a last ditch effort on what to do to bring me out of this. It has been a non stop depression now for 15 years and I'm really running out of reasons to actually live.
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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: mkay]
    #15406983 - 11/22/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Can anybody tell me if water intoxication is a good idea?

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: TouniiE]
    #15407055 - 11/22/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

TouniiE said:
Can anybody tell me if water intoxication is a good idea?




Im pretty sure thats a form of torture..

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Anonymous #27]
    #15407075 - 11/22/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You just have to keep drinking water till you die

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: TouniiE]
    #15407535 - 11/22/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Renzo's ultimate suicide tek

this only works if you live in a very cold place.

1. get really, really, really drunk.  If you can walk, you're not drunk enough. 

2. crawl, or slither outside.

3. go to sleep.

4. dead. repeat if necessary.


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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: RenzoSupreme]
    #15408156 - 11/22/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Why on earth would someone who's afraid of losing their kids to a really shitty boyfriend/girlfriend ex-wife/ex-husband, decide that killing themselves and not being there to support their kids in that situation would be better? If you kill yourself your kids go there, and you can't be there to visit them, you can't make sure they're being taken care of, you can bring pleasure into their life, etc. I know lots of people who've lost a parent when younger, to natural causes, and they want more than anything to be able to tell that parent how much they miss them, why would you risk psychologically screwing up your kid by killing yourself? How better to tell your kid "I don't love you and don't care about being in your life anymore, I'm gonna remove myself". I know people who've found their loved ones dead, whether it be from detoxing off alcohol, overdose (accidental and intentional, accidental death from ecstasy, suicide, the list goes on, and those families are so devastated, they're not the same people. Shit I know people who died who I haven't seen in years, and it changed me. Death in American society is not like death in any other foreign culture. Here it is a cause of psychological issues, we are a very "self" based society, especially this I generation. Everything one person does, someone will claim credit for, and if someone does something bad, others claim it was a plight against them. That's why seeking help is the best thing to do, rather than suicide.


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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: fngbronco]
    #15411934 - 11/23/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

@Brohaamm

How do I know a god exists?  Very simple there is life.  I worked for years as a biochemist.  Do you know what is required to allow for the replication of a single strand of DNA?  The protein that does the sequencing is made up of 4 strands: 2 long ones (4million+) amino acid (hereafter referred to as peptides)sequences and 2 short ones (2million+) peptide sequences.  Considering there are 21 peptides found in living things (at least on this planet), 20 of which are found in humans and considered universal that gives 20^4,000,000 for the probability of each of the long stands and 20^2,000,000 power for the short stands to occur randomly.

I grant in a universe these numbers become reasonable statistical probability.

Next the 4 stands must be in the SAME PLACE at the SAME TIME.  This is where the probability starts going out the window.  And they must interact to achieve the final conformation.

That is just one of about 20 proteins required.  Then there are the DNA strands required to code these proteins.  Allowing 3 nucleic acids (NA) per peptide and there are 4 NA on which comprise DNA (I know there are more NA but we are talking DNA only), that makes the string required for that one protein 4^12,000,000 power.  This DNA strand as well as all the others to generate the messenger-RNA, ribosomal-RNA, and transfer-RNA (very short NA sequences) must again be in that same location at the same time.

Then there are the processes required to harvest and use energy (ATP, ADP, AMP, GTP, GDP, ...) those must be present also ALL of the processes of protein and DNA production are endothermic (you must supply external energy for them to take place).  So those processes and the proteins required for them must be present again at the SAME TIME and the SAME PLACE. 

Then all this material must be wrapped up in a membrane that is on microscopic size so the SAME PLACE is VERY SMALL.  The membrane must also be semipermeable to allow for the transmission of energy sources and other required materials into the cell and release of waste materials outside the membrane.  The membrane must be very thin such that it does not interfere with the chemical processes withing the cell.

The reason I keep emphasizing at the same time is the proteins and nucleic acids are thermodynamically unstable.  The have very high energy values compared to the surrounding environment so would break down fast.

I can fully accept the concept of evolution once life exists.  I can fully exists the material of the universe has always existed even without a deity.  But I cannot accept that life could spontaneously appear anywhere within the near infinite number of places within the universes.  Life is IMPOSSIBLE, not unlikely, not improbable, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.  As there is life there must be such a thing as a god.  I do not know what a god is.  I do not claim to say that a god is kind, cruel, loving, spiteful, good, or bad.  I do not say the god/gods know of care for us.

I am not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim but the situation of disbelief in a deity is best described in the Bible Psalms 14.1, to paraphrase (as it is often misquoted), only a fool believes there is not god.

My belief in a deity is not out of faith or trust.  It is out of sure knowledge there must be one.  As the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle character Sherlock Holmes stated in The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier, "When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.", ergo a god must exist.

Any further questions?

Edited by DisplacedTexan (11/23/11 07:45 AM)

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: DisplacedTexan] * 1
    #15415043 - 11/23/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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@Brohaamm

How do I know a god exists?  Very simple there is life.  I worked for years as a biochemist.  Do you know what is required to allow for the replication of a single strand of DNA?  The protein that does the sequencing is made up of 4 strands: 2 long ones (4million+) amino acid (hereafter referred to as peptides)sequences and 2 short ones (2million+) peptide sequences.  Considering there are 21 peptides found in living things (at least on this planet), 20 of which are found in humans and considered universal that gives 20^4,000,000 for the probability of each of the long stands and 20^2,000,000 power for the short stands to occur randomly.

I grant in a universe these numbers become reasonable statistical probability.

Next the 4 stands must be in the SAME PLACE at the SAME TIME.  This is where the probability starts going out the window.  And they must interact to achieve the final conformation.

That is just one of about 20 proteins required.  Then there are the DNA strands required to code these proteins.  Allowing 3 nucleic acids (NA) per peptide and there are 4 NA on which comprise DNA (I know there are more NA but we are talking DNA only), that makes the string required for that one protein 4^12,000,000 power.  This DNA strand as well as all the others to generate the messenger-RNA, ribosomal-RNA, and transfer-RNA (very short NA sequences) must again be in that same location at the same time.

Then there are the processes required to harvest and use energy (ATP, ADP, AMP, GTP, GDP, ...) those must be present also ALL of the processes of protein and DNA production are endothermic (you must supply external energy for them to take place).  So those processes and the proteins required for them must be present again at the SAME TIME and the SAME PLACE. 

Then all this material must be wrapped up in a membrane that is on microscopic size so the SAME PLACE is VERY SMALL.  The membrane must also be semipermeable to allow for the transmission of energy sources and other required materials into the cell and release of waste materials outside the membrane.  The membrane must be very thin such that it does not interfere with the chemical processes withing the cell.

The reason I keep emphasizing at the same time is the proteins and nucleic acids are thermodynamically unstable.  The have very high energy values compared to the surrounding environment so would break down fast.

I can fully accept the concept of evolution once life exists.  I can fully exists the material of the universe has always existed even without a deity.  But I cannot accept that life could spontaneously appear anywhere within the near infinite number of places within the universes.  Life is IMPOSSIBLE, not unlikely, not improbable, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.  As there is life there must be such a thing as a god.  I do not know what a god is.  I do not claim to say that a god is kind, cruel, loving, spiteful, good, or bad.  I do not say the god/gods know of care for us.

I am not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim but the situation of disbelief in a deity is best described in the Bible Psalms 14.1, to paraphrase (as it is often misquoted), only a fool believes there is not god.

My belief in a deity is not out of faith or trust.  It is out of sure knowledge there must be one.  As the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle character Sherlock Holmes stated in The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier, "When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.", ergo a god must exist.

Any further questions?



If god exists then he's doing a shitty job with his creations.


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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #15415543 - 11/23/11 11:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"I do not say that the god/gods know of care for us"

...just saying, you should read what you quote

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: Dimo114]
    #15419430 - 11/24/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dimo114 said:
"I do not say that the god/gods know of care for us"

...just saying, you should read what you quote



lol sorry.


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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #15420908 - 11/25/11 06:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Okay...so how about this one:

Castor Beans and Rosary Peas...two supposedly highly toxic plant parts that are potentially fatal in even very small doses (as small as a single crushed bean).  The most popular online auction site has several listings for both of these plant parts, as the plants themselves are very beautiful.  Buying large quantities of the fatal beans, seeds, etc is very cheap.  Now you must crush the seed/bean as the outer covering would otherwise render it indigestible and would pass harmlessly through the digestive system. 

Anybody know how quick or certain death would be from crushing, then consuming a large batch of castor beans and rosary peas?  What could be done to prevent vomiting?

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Re: Best (Most painless) way to Commit Suicide? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #15421003 - 11/25/11 07:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Killing yourself is a bitch, it is very hard. I have wanted to die for along time now but killing my self seems just out of my grasp for what im willing to do. I want to do it without it being considered suicide because of what may happen after death scares me, I feel like a pussy for that but oh well. I just try to push my limits when I get really suicidal. Ride my motorcycle really fast while drunk,high,tripin(etc). Iv took 5 hydrocodone 750 1 seroquel 750 thought that may do it used whiskey to take but didnt drink after(pussy move)again could have probably done it that time if had drank just little bit more. Every time i get close to dieing man this scared feeling hits me like a ton of bricks panic all that then i feel like such a failure of a man for being scared of what i want most. If i knew there is nothing after death I wouldnt be scared at all dont remember ever being scared of anything else. I hope there is nothing after death because im tired of my self I dont want to just not live on this earth I just dont want to exist (body or soul).


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