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I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW
    #15387156 - 11/18/11 03:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hahahaha.


I honestly can't help to like the guy.  He doesn't try to be anybody else.  He just does his own thing.


I'm sure somewhere down the line his career may crash and burn very suddenly.  But for now it's fun to root for him.


What a finish that game was.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15387204 - 11/18/11 04:16 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i hate him

but for the broncos winning is winning so i'm not going to say he's not nfl calibre anymore unless he starts losing


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #15387305 - 11/18/11 06:12 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's hard for me to hate him, he's such an underdog.  He seems to be pretty humble as well.



I root for him just because so many people counted him out, and yeah his passing does suck.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15387328 - 11/18/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have nothing against Tebow, but the way ESPN treats his wins (it's 100% Tebow talk 100% of the time) is kinda retarded and ass backwards.

He completed 2 passes last week. This week? 95 yards passing, something like 140-150 combined. The Broncs offense had freaking 10 points. 10 fucking points. They won because their defense held the Jets to 13 points. The D also scored as many touchdowns (1) as Tebow and the offense did all game (1).

If anything they win in spite of him; not because of him.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: Niffla]
    #15387338 - 11/18/11 06:38 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Broncos also have one of the nastiest offensive lines in the league.


But O-line never gets any attention.  Despite the fact that they determine the outcome of almost every single offensive play.

Chris Kuper is an absolute beast.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15388013 - 11/18/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Fucking hell, does the Sanchise suck this year.  Who doesn't want to see Rexxy sucking his toe thumb in tears come December?  I know I would love it.

Somebody should remind Revis that tackling is part of the requirement for his position.  He looked like he wanted no part of tackling Tebow.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15391906 - 11/19/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Heh, Sanchez just debilitates what would be a solid contender team if they just had an above-average league QB on their team.


They need to trade for a decent free agent QB.  I'd rather take Jason Campbell if he's available, woulda gone after Carson Palmer when he was available.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15392410 - 11/19/11 08:15 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Carson Palmer




That old bitch?


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15392524 - 11/19/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Take it easy. The Jets o-line has taken a major step backwards with Hunter replacing Woody.  The team's administrators tried to sell Hunter to the fan base but it is now pretty obvious that he shouldn't be a starter.  On top of this, in the Denver game Shon Greene going down was a major loss in pass protection.  Have you seen the shots Sanchez has taken this year?  Between Mangold being out for two weeks early on and the other problems with pass protection, it is no wonder Sanchez has struggled. 

Remember it's only his third year in the league and he already has more road playoff wins than anybody who has ever played the position.  I admit this year he has struggled and looked skittish but who wouldn't?


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #15394043 - 11/19/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

By the third year you'd expect a player to begin to get better.  The Sanchez of this season isn't much better than of the last two seasons.

I don't credit him with those road playoff wins as much as I credit the Jet's D stepping up late in games against strong offenses. 


I mean yeah Sanchez occasionally has good games.  But for about 2 out of every 3 games, he struggles to get any production at all, and just throws innaccurate passes consistently.


Keller, Burress, and Holmes, you can easily make an arguement that they're one of the most talented recieving tandems in the league.  Burress really doesn't look that bad, look at the way he outstretched on that 16 yard reception against the sidelines when Sanchez grossly overthrew him.


You have to really question a QB's throwing accuracy when the guy is consistently overthrowing 6'5" receivers.




There are 3 rookie QBs this year who throw more accurately and consistently than Sanchez has even into his third year.



If you took Sanchez out of the Jets and replaced him with a halfway decent passer, the team would be much better off.  Trust me, I sat threw 4 agonizing years of Kordell Stewart leading a team that possessed one of the top rated defenses in the league, along with a strong recieving tandem and running game.  Yet he held them back tremendously with his suckage.

Sanchez is doing alot of the same things.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15394404 - 11/19/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I like how you completely disregarded the fact that the offensive line has been horrible.  I admit his accuracy is not getting better, and he probably needs to work on his motion a little to get that corrected, but the number one thing he is lacking is time.  Bellicheck went after Hunter like the weak link he is and Denver followed suit.  But I guess you were too busy laughing at an errant throw as Sanchez took helmet in the back after helmet in the back for 9 weeks. 

People say the offensive line is the most important part of any offense and then completely disregard it and blame a quarterback who had bright red dirt on the back of his jersey for 3 and 3/4 quarters.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #15394685 - 11/19/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think Tebow sucks and his arm sucks but how can you argue with 3-0, you cant really or you are just a hater.  The guy is winning games and until he starts losing, then I guess he's got what it takes to play in the NFL


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #15396149 - 11/20/11 01:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It's not just when he's getting blitzed that Sanchez is making poor decisions.


He locks onto his first read too often.  When he completed to Burress, he targeted him another 4 straight times.  He has about zero ability to pull off second-options.  Even when his first option is in double coverage, or a DB is about to break his reciever's rout, he STILLs throws at his first option. 


Like the incompletion at 1:40 in the 3rd quarter.  Firstly, Sanchez gets protected VERY WELL against the blitz.  He gets a good 2 full seconds before any rusher gets near him.

Yet he does the stupidest thing.  Locks onto his one first read in Santonio, doesn't even move his eyes away to look at other routes, and despite Santonio being double covered and really not open at all, he STILL passes at him.



Whether or not his O line is doing well or poorly, you can't put that as the primary and sole excuse for how often Sanchez makes poor decisions.    Even in plays when he HAS good protection, he still does tons of stupid shit, like overthrowig Burress, overthrowing Keller in the end zone, or squeezing a ball into double and tripple coverage.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15396307 - 11/20/11 02:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Look in these eyes





Does it remind you of anyone?

BOOM!





Jesus Fucking Christ.

That right.  Jesus gave all of his football power to 1 Man. 

Tim Tebow








And how good is this man?  Ha!  Imagine looking up at the scoreboard and seeing this








That's right.  Not only has Jesus given this man the POWER to win, but he will humiliate you by keeping the game SO CLOSE, that you can almost taste the victory






So I ask the NFL fans.  Why even continue the game when your up against THE CHOSEN ONE!



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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15396519 - 11/20/11 06:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

LS, it's true that there isn't an arm in his face (or helmet in his back) on every play but what happens to ANY auarterback in a situation where he doesn't trust his line to protect him is what is happening to him.  You act like before the ball is snapped to him he is supposed to know "Okay on this play, I'm actually going to have enough time to make a read".  Nobody knows that but what you do is tend toward your experience.  There have only been two games this year in which Sanchez's line gave him consistent protection. 

I'm done talking to you though because you actually believe that the quaterback is more accountable than the offensive line for success and failure which is a gross misjudgment.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15397127 - 11/20/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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It's not just when he's getting blitzed that Sanchez is making poor decisions.


He locks onto his first read too often.  When he completed to Burress, he targeted him another 4 straight times.  He has about zero ability to pull off second-options.  Even when his first option is in double coverage, or a DB is about to break his reciever's rout, he STILLs throws at his first option. 


Like the incompletion at 1:40 in the 3rd quarter.  Firstly, Sanchez gets protected VERY WELL against the blitz.  He gets a good 2 full seconds before any rusher gets near him.

Yet he does the stupidest thing.  Locks onto his one first read in Santonio, doesn't even move his eyes away to look at other routes, and despite Santonio being double covered and really not open at all, he STILL passes at him.



Whether or not his O line is doing well or poorly, you can't put that as the primary and sole excuse for how often Sanchez makes poor decisions.    Even in plays when he HAS good protection, he still does tons of stupid shit, like overthrowig Burress, overthrowing Keller in the end zone, or squeezing a ball into double and tripple coverage.



Or calling an unnecessary timeout with a minute and change left to give Brady time to drive for a win.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #15398237 - 11/20/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

No, I've said many times the O line is by far the most important position on an offense.


But in this specific situation with the Jets, their QB has been the biggest burden on the team.


The difference is, you can have a weak player or two on an O line and still perform well enough as a unit.


But with individual players, if your QB sucks, it fucks up the whole team, including the defense.



You don't have to get pissy just because my opinion is different than yours.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15398459 - 11/20/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not to mention Denver's O-line having to completely switch styles in a matter of 3 or so games.  Pretty damn good.

Also another big piece of the Denver getting back to some level of respectability is VON MILLER.

Dude is a fucking beast.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #15398704 - 11/20/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

> Not to mention Denver's O-line having to completely switch styles in a matter of 3 or so games.

Not only switching styles, but having faith that the new style, which everybody that is anybody has said cannot work in the NFL (including Elway), on top of everybody saying your QB sucks.  It would have been much easier to listen to the haters, let Tebow take the blame, collect a paycheck, and look forward to next season.


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Re: I BELIEVE IN TEBOWWWW [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #15401929 - 11/21/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)



I'm not pissy because your opinion is different.  I'm pissy because your opinion is retarded.

Your comments about the offensive line being most important to an offense come across as nothing more than obligatory lip service when you make comments about how a "halfway decent" quarterback would be winning more games than Sanchez this season.  The offensive line has been woeful, period.  You take any other quarterback besides maybe Big Ben and you would have the same result. 

The problem with Sanchez's "decision making" and "accuracy" stem primarily from the fact that he doesn't trust his line.  This is making him skittish and as a result you are seeing what looks like bad quarterbacking.  The reason he doesn't trust his line is because his line has consistently failed to protect him.  Do you remember the Jets first offensive play of the season?



Sanchez  has taken probably an average of two shots like that almost every game.  His line has gone from being great in his rookie year to very good last year to outright lousy this year. 

And an offensive line can still be good as a unit with one or two guys who are not good?  Really?  Have you ever heard the expression "A chain is only as good as its weakest link?"  Case in point this season is the Jets line.

Ask Jim Plunkett about what difference an offensive line can make for a quarterback.


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