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ID: San Pedro?
    #1538549 - 05/11/03 05:17 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Found this shit growing wild, so I chopped two big hunks from the little pod:


Is that San Pedro? If it is, I'm cutting more of that shiet.

Spikes can't be more than 1cm in length. Those things are heavy too, must weigh at least 30 lbs. Took a bite of that shit, very bitter. Color is consistent with a watermelon.

ID Please.

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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: daba]
    #1538565 - 05/11/03 05:33 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

looks like san pedro at first glance. It's almost certainly Trichocereus. if the spines are very short and slightly thorn-like it's gonna be San Pedro (Trichocereus pachanoi). I'd suggest searching http://images.google.com/search?q=trichocereus and comparing the photos with your cactus.



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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: daba]
    #1538647 - 05/11/03 09:09 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Hard to tell from the photos, but I 'd say there's a good chance you have San Pedro there.

The cactus in the photo the other guy posted isn't...whether or not he was under the impression it was I don't know, but I thought someone should mention it to avoid confusion...


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: Pynchon]
    #1538845 - 05/11/03 12:44 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

looks like pedro to me, especially the bottom picture and the short spines.


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: daba]
    #1538860 - 05/11/03 01:04 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Growing wild, where do you live?


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: neuro]
    #1539547 - 05/11/03 07:31 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Southern California, near Los Angeles


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: daba]
    #1539757 - 05/11/03 09:32 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

It's always good to be able to spell the name of the city you live in  :wink:

So you found this wild? I'm skeptical, as that does not grow wild in the US.

My guess is:

It was planted where you found it purposely

It somehow got away and ended up there

It's not san pedro.


Got some better pictures?


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: neuro]
    #1544143 - 05/13/03 04:01 AM (14 years, 14 days ago)

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The cactus in the photo the other guy posted isn't...whether or not he was under the impression it was I don't know, but I thought someone should mention it to avoid confusion...





if you read the caption under the pic you'd see that it was an illustration of the point that many people go around stealing [large and crudely performed] cuttings from cacti thinking that they are trichocereus species, when often times they are not.


daba: the lighting [rather the lack of lighting] in your pic makes it impossible to id your find.


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: canid]
    #1544573 - 05/13/03 10:56 AM (14 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

if you read the caption under the pic you'd see that it was an illustration of the point that many people go around stealing [large and crudely performed] cuttings from cacti thinking that they are trichocereus species, when often times they are not.




I did read the caption, and that's not the meaning I took from it at all. I really doubt there's a multi-thousand dollar theft ring involving Trichs in Arizona...I would assume the thieves were after Saguaro, which has been illegally harvested from the wild for years.


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: Pynchon]
    #1545355 - 05/13/03 04:01 PM (14 years, 13 days ago)

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I really doubt there's a multi-thousand dollar theft ring involving Trichs in Arizona...I would assume the thieves were after Saguaro, which has been illegally harvested from the wild for years





then you would have your head in the sand...

it is not an organized theft ring [it's a randon selection of uneducated highschool kids with no clear idea what they are looking for stealing any cactus that looks even remotely similar], but it is a multi-thousand dollar hasstle at best and occurs with alarming frequency. i will not even grow any of my cacti within view of the street.


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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: canid]
    #1547560 - 05/14/03 09:16 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

Nor will I.

Still, a "ring" would surely imply organisation of some kind, and my uneducated assumption would be that there's far more reward to be had in swiping Carnegia over Trichs', at least in Arizona, anyway.

I'm not really trying to argue with you but you're original statement was that the Cereus photo posted was an "illustration of the point that many people go around stealing...snip...cuttings from cacti thinking that they are trichocereus species, when often times they are not."...yet the Cereus in the pic appears untouched.

But yeah, the theft of columnar cacti under the assumption that they're mescaline-bearing is really widespread, and a fucking nuisance and a half, especially if you've been growing them from seedlings.





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Re: ID: San Pedro? [Re: Pynchon]
    #1641987 - 06/18/03 12:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I have seen alot of what looks-to-be san pedro in california...

are there many species that look the same in CA?... I will be taking photos of some which is not far from where I live - with better lighting than daba- so i'll get back when I need it to be ID'd...

here is a great page I just found with good pictures>

http://www.desert-tropicals.com/Plants/Cactaceae/Trichocereus_pachanoi.html

Recommended Temperature Zone:
sunset: 16,17,21-24
USDA: 8b-10


Frost Tolerance: Hardy to 15?F (-10?C)

Minimum Avg. Temperature: 50?F (10?C)

Heat Tolerance: Light shade in Phoenix

Sun Exposure: Full sun

Origin: Mountains of Ecuador and Peru, between 5000 and 9000 feet elevation (1500m and 2700m)

Growth Habits: Multi-stemmed columnar cactus, up to 20 feet tall by 6 feet spread (6 by 1.8 m)

Watering Needs: Little water when established

Propagation: Cuttings, seeds


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