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another question
    #1537314 - 05/10/03 06:09 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

how long can a colonized substrate stay in a jar? ive noticed like an overgrow i think of something in a colonized film canister i have. Its not a contam, but its almost like a thicker growth in one part of the jar, like its seepeing some sort of thicker substance or something. I have no idea. Anyways. is there a limit on how long you can keep a colonized a jar?


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Re: another question [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1537318 - 05/10/03 06:13 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Might be pinning... might just be agressive growth (literally a reaching out to look for more substrate to colonize. Could be a contam... it could also be mycelia piss. It's hard to tell for sure becuase you didn't give an overwhelmingly good description.


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Re: another question [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #1537358 - 05/10/03 06:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

sounds like its beginning to pin, looks like a white mass that will develope a tiny cap in a few days, have u been exposing it to light, if u look at them too much the will start pinning in the jar, if ur trying to keep colonized jars for ne amt of time u should put it in like the fridge this will slow the growth until u r ready, that can last a long time but is not recomended if it is already starting to pin


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Re: another question [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1537360 - 05/10/03 06:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)


After full colonization, about a week or so at room temp.....should go into refrig after that, if not going to birth it right away..


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Re: another question [Re: Mike Elium]
    #1537365 - 05/10/03 06:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

ARG it IS startting to pin : ( what should I do? can you make casing from substate thats begun pinning? or what are my options : )


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Re: another question [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1537425 - 05/10/03 07:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

>ARG it IS startting to pin : (
There are other's who are not so fortunate. Pinning is a good thing, it's the start of an interesting process and the result is a well formed fruitbody.


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Re: another question [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1537754 - 05/10/03 09:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)


Do this:
Anno's PF Tek, Fruiting

Or this:
Shroomery Easy Casing Method

Funny, cause some people would give their left 'nad to see Pins.


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Re: another question [Re: Mike Elium]
    #1537782 - 05/10/03 10:16 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

well, its pinning INSIDE the jar, i think when i take it out, it will ruin any pins anyways........ can i still make a casing of a substate, that has pins all over it?


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Re: another question [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1537813 - 05/10/03 10:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well actually, in the PF TEK it says this:

"The best time to remove the fungus cake from the jar is when the primordia (tiny worm like structures with reddish heads) appear on the cake while still in the jar. Be careful not to damage them in handling. The rule is to handle with care."

So you can birth it as a cake and leave the pins on. If you case it, you should remove the pins, crumble the cakes, case them, and let the myc grow into the casing layer before fruiting. Considering it's already pinning, why not just birth it as a cake?


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Re: another question [Re: Mike Elium]
    #1538025 - 05/10/03 11:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

thanks for all the help


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Re: another question [Re: 2Experimental]
    #1538032 - 05/11/03 12:02 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

taking it out of the jar probly will kill it, but u can try or u could let the first pins grow in the jar(invitro) then birth to pick first flush :grin:


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Re: another question [Re: MykeOfile]
    #1538077 - 05/11/03 12:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Taking the cake out of the jar will not harm the pins unless they are touched or hurt, they most likely will survive, this is coming from experience, just be gently, and do not touch them, The less you handle the better their chances of survival.


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