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Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose?
    #1537007 - 05/10/03 02:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

First time grower here, trying to grow based on the the tutorial here; http://leda.lycaeum.org/Documents/How_to_Grow_Psychedelic_Mushrooms.10369.shtml


Question is should I get a print or sypringe? This tutorial says print but what is the difference?

Also from this site; http://www.thelittleguy.com/all_spores.html which I think is a sponser here what is a good strain to start with? I am a first time grower but want some potent magic mushrooms that are easy to grow for a first timer and yield a good amount.

If this place is not good to buy from as well tell me which one is and is it legal to have syringes/prints in the US? I might have to move there.

Also how many grams should I get from a print and how many from a syringe? Please go easy I am new and sorry if I offend, sorry also if my English is not good =)

Thanks!


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: modest_farmer]
    #1537015 - 05/10/03 03:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

find some eq s...read alittle bit more from faq find a print to make your own syringe


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: modest_farmer]
    #1537052 - 05/10/03 03:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

First grows, IMHO should start with a vendor syringe.

Making syringes from a print is not hard. BUT, adds another step & the possibility of introducing contams. Should that happen at the syringe stage, all else is doomed. :frown:

With a vendor syringe, odds are very very high, it will be clean & viable.

Otherwise a "vendor" would not be a "vendor" here long.

TLG has a very large & faithfull following. That says more than words about the quality of his products.

Do the grow from a vendor syringe, then make your own print, then syringes. :laugh:

EQ is a good starting strain.

6T  :wink: 


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: fugu]
    #1537055 - 05/10/03 03:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Seems like everyone says eqs are harder to fruit for newbs, maybe i mis understood. With a print you can make multiple syringes... Seems like that'd make the most sense, unless your paranoid about contams, then get a ready-made syringe. Spore prints and syringes are legal in all states except CA and GA, in the USA..

From an average sized print I made 3x 10cc syringes and 1x 3cc (specificaly for karo) and all were very nice shade of.. .not clear. I recon the print would have made over a dozen light syringes that would still have all contained more than enough spores to get lots of jars going


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: photovorix]
    #1537143 - 05/10/03 04:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

california sucks.


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: photovorix]
    #1537144 - 05/10/03 04:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So this would be what I need to buy as a first time grower; http://www.thelittleguy.com/ecuador.html

The question I have which is really dumb but that tutorial said to use prints, you say you can use prints to make syringes but what are they? I know they are spores but still am unclear, also what provisions should I make in using a syringe as that tutorial uses prints.

Sorry for all the dumb questions again, I am learning a lot!!


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: modest_farmer]
    #1537189 - 05/10/03 04:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Chem: It does suck here, but, its not impossible to get spores, there are a few vendors that will send them to cali

One thing thats completely retarded is tlg sells Panaeolus subbalteatus... found in the bay area of california, but wont ship the spores to california.lol.

Theres a picture of a spore print on tlg, you put the cap on a sterile surface (wax paper, foil, non-acidic paper, glass) and the cap drops spores on it, like a finger print.. It has patterns because of the gills on the underside of the cap.. The spores dry out and stick to the surface.


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: photovorix]
    #1537221 - 05/10/03 05:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

There some way of skiping the syringe and just inoculating straight from a print?


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1537236 - 05/10/03 05:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The first tek I ever read said to scrape spores from the print in to the jar then add the dry layer of verm on top of the brf.

I've done two karo jars scrapign the spores from the print in to the jar, one contaminated, the other has mycelium growth


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: photovorix]
    #1537537 - 05/10/03 07:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So a print is like a syringe but a syringe is just filled with a bunch of prints?

You use the syringe the same way as you use a print right?

How many grams if grown all out will a syringe produce like the one I posted?


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: modest_farmer]
    #1537761 - 05/10/03 09:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A print isnt like a syringe, a print is spores collected on a surface. You scrape the spores in to sterile water, and suck the water in to a syringe, along with the spores... thats jsut a rough description


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: modest_farmer]
    #1537767 - 05/10/03 09:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

How many grams? Well I'm sure that all depends on how many jars you fill, how many stay clean and produce shrooms. It depends on a lot of factors that aren't controllable, so therefore there is no real "well 1 syringe = 7 grams...."


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: modest_farmer]
    #1537958 - 05/10/03 11:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Their is no way to tell how many grams will come from one syringe. There are alot of variables which go into the end product so, There is no guerentee that a spore syringe will produce even 1 gram of wet mushrooms.


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: BladeLSD]
    #1537978 - 05/10/03 11:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A print will usually have a lot more spores then a syringe. All things start with spores dropping from a cap, a print is nothing more then that. A syringe is made from a spore solution that takes a print and turns it into 10-100 syringes depending on who is making them.

the old PF syringes (mid-90's) were so packed with spores you could see clumps of them in the 10cc syringe..
It seems that most syringe providers now "cut" the spore solution with more water to increase profits (I would assume.) This can easily be seen under a microscope.


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Re: Print vs. Sypringe? What strain would I choose? [Re: BladeLSD]
    #1537986 - 05/10/03 11:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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  There is no guerentee that a spore syringe will produce even 1 gram of wet mushrooms.   




Tru dat'! It only takes 2 spores to grow tons mushrooms but it only takes one uninformed human playing god in the background to f$%^ it all up  :grin: 


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