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suchen
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Yeah I even saw the bluing in the earlier photos. Good hunt!
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The Lightning
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I need a pixel ruler for made for mac.
I need it to be rotatable 360 degrees in on order to measure spores.
Edited by The Lightning (11/14/11 03:47 AM)
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Oregonic
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: The Lightning]
#15367256 - 11/13/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've spent a small amount of time in clear cuts hunting Pellis... I have seen specimens that have looked exactly like those you've collected and passed them up due to them just not seeming to match other examples I've seen of Pelliculosa. But then again, seemingly many photographs I've seen of Pellis can vary. IMO, those look like a completely different mushroom than the Pellis in Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World, but look very similiar to some photos in the results of a google image search of Psilocybe Pelliculosa. But I think it's looking pretty good for you... and me, since I am now going to go back to a couple clear cuts.
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maynardjameskeenan
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: The Lightning]
#15367271 - 11/13/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those look a lot more like a psilocybe once dried! I bet that they are pelliculosa.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: The Lightning]
#15368334 - 11/14/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't see any lamellar trama in your video, and the gill isn't really a perfect triangular shape, making me wonder if the gill is folded over on the tip and you are actually looking at the gill edge. The cystidia is too abundant to be pleurocystidia and the shape is more like what I would expect to see in cheilocystidia.
You might need to work on your sectioning some more. The fact that you coudn't focus well in some places indicates that it is too thick.
P. pelliculosa is supposed to have irregularly branched cheilocystidia.
Regarding telling cheilocystidia from pleurocystidia - They are often different shapes.
It would be a good idea to draw the shapes of the cystidia you see on paper to help convey the shapes that you see. Check Oluna Ceska's drawings on mushroomobserver for examples.
The spores and cystidia are the same in dried and fresh material. When you examine dried material it gets rehydrated first with KOH or isopropanol.
Make sure you are saving good herbarium specimens, and label them with the MO observation number so later you know which mushrooms go with which photos.
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HarryL
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15368366 - 11/14/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think most of those are Pells
I believe there are several sub species or variants of Pells
The pellicle, purplish spore print and habitat will keep you straight
Even being careful, I have picked galerina and found them at home on sorting
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: HarryL]
#15368382 - 11/14/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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HarryL said: I believe there are several sub species or variants of Pells
¿orale? Which ones are you aware of?
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novictimnocrime
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15369051 - 11/14/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nevermind, those are not Pelliculosa based on the spore print and bruising. I've never (ever) had a pelliculosa blue, or have a brown print, and i've picked many hundreds. maybe a galerina. but nice find
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tdmm
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: novictimnocrime]
#15369076 - 11/14/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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novictimnocrime said: Nevermind, those are not Pelliculosa based on the spore print and bruising. I've never (ever) had a pelliculosa blue, or have a brown print, and i've picked many hundreds. maybe a galerina. but nice find
Really? I'm confused... Stamets' book says:
"Stem: (...) ...brownish toward the base, blue green where bruised or with age."
I thought I've heard reports that some pelli hunters to see some blueing, although fairly uncommon, it's not unheard of?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: novictimnocrime]
#15369115 - 11/14/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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novictimnocrime said: maybe a galerina.
That would explain the presence of pleurocystidia and capitate cystidia.
OP check the spores for a germ pore.
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novictimnocrime
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Re: Psilocybe pelliculosa hunters please comment [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15370705 - 11/14/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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might be location or something but, ive never seen one blue. I'd like to know what that is though
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