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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: XUL]
    #15359168 - 11/12/11 07:22 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well i decided to try bare foot running at the high school track first to check out the mechanics of it all... i immediately noticed i ran completely on the balls of my foot which didn't surprise me really cause like i told you before when i run across our lawn while playing with my son i ran on the balls of my feet... there was absolutely no pain or injuries and my feet adjusted to the temperature of the track pretty quickly... i ran just under two miles... i think i'm going to stick running at the track for now before i take it to the roads and streets...

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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: cateyes]
    #15359446 - 11/12/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

My boyfriend bought me a pair of Vibram KSO's for our anniversary this year and I can honestly say they're the best pair of shoes I've ever had. Walking feels so much more natural, they're really the only shoe I wear anymore. I had some doubts about running in them because I expected the lack of padding to cause a lot of pain but my running experiences so far have been amazing. I find that my feet feel much better after running or walking in my KSO's than they used to after wearing any pair of running shoes I've ever owned.

Plus it's awesome to be able to feel the ground and wiggle your toes while still wearing shoes when tripping. :thumbup::mushroom2:


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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: JoieDeVivre]
    #15360008 - 11/12/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

XUL - you should check out the book "born to run," It is basically a story about the terahumara *super runner* indians of Mexico. They wear huaraches, and are basically better than the best competitive ultra runners in the world. 

It is an exciting first person narrative about the authors experience researching barefoot running, and the terahumara while learning how to distance run himself (after being plagued with injuries.) The book is filled with evidence and anecdotes from researchers from many different backgrounds in support of barefoot running, and it really makes a convincing argument for it.

I'd like to point out something from the last page of the book. After a showdown between elite american ultra runners and terahumara indians in the canyons of mexico, a runner named "barefoot ted" who ran the race in vibrams, is bandaged up and hobbling back to the bus. - Despite all the supporting evidence that barefoot running is "natural" and wearing padded shoes is detrimental to joint/foot health, i found it odd that the book ended with the barefoot runner being gibbled. Food for thought anyways.

I was road running in my trail runners for my first 2 seasons, and they were pretty minimally padded and forced me to lower my toes and ease onto my heel (as you would if your wear barefoot.) ie. naturally absorb shock impact rather than heel striking. - I have since upgraded to a top of the line road runner with ALOT of cushioning, and i wish i never had. Although they are extremely comfy, i am almost off balance using them and i could see them possibly causing knee problems. They essentially demand a heel strike. I wish i never bought them.

In the spring when i start running more often, i am going to buy a bare of merrel minimus's or something similar, a flat soled running shoe, to train in part time. The vibrams arn't appealing to me...


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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: PDU]
    #15362379 - 11/12/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I started wearing minimalist running shoes about two weeks ago on my short runs (up to 5 miles), Minimus New Balance. It really has forced me to land on the balls of my feet. I run rocky/sandy desert trails and I have to keep my eyes on where my feet hit the entire time. I am still wearing traditional running shoes on my longer runs (15 miles) but they feel really mushy now.


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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: sunflower]
    #15362465 - 11/12/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

New balance, not merrel in my previous post^

Have you found it hard to adapt to the minimus's sunflower? Do you think they would be alright for pavement? Do you think they strengthen your feet and form, or are just "less bad" than overly padded shoes?


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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: PDU]
    #15362518 - 11/12/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I admit my feet have been a little sore, but I am stepping more lightly. I think they would be fine for pavement.  I run like a tank so I think that they may force me to improve my form.  I will report back after a month of running in them and tell you what I think.


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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: cateyes]
    #15362634 - 11/12/11 10:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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cateyes said:
i noticed that i run on the balls of my feet when i run across the lawn... so do my children... from an evolutionary standpoint it makes alot of sense too, after all cavemen didn't have sneakers...

now i'm going to play devils advocate :smirk:...

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The research was funded by the American School of Prehistoric Research, the Goelet Fund, Harvard University, and Vibram USA.




i can't come out and say that harvard may have an agenda but the american school of prehistoric research, the goelet fund and vibram usa could after all they're all involved in primitive research one way or another...

like i said, i was just playing the devils advocate... i'm gonna have to check out them vibram's... they sound very comfortable...

Kensho :psychsplit:




Fact: If cavemen did it, then it has to be good for you.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: PDU]
    #15363039 - 11/13/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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PDU said:
XUL - you should check out the book "born to run," It is basically a story about the terahumara *super runner* indians of Mexico. They wear huaraches, and are basically better than the best competitive ultra runners in the world. 

It is an exciting first person narrative about the authors experience researching barefoot running, and the terahumara while learning how to distance run himself (after being plagued with injuries.) The book is filled with evidence and anecdotes from researchers from many different backgrounds in support of barefoot running, and it really makes a convincing argument for it.

I'd like to point out something from the last page of the book. After a showdown between elite american ultra runners and terahumara indians in the canyons of mexico, a runner named "barefoot ted" who ran the race in vibrams, is bandaged up and hobbling back to the bus. - Despite all the supporting evidence that barefoot running is "natural" and wearing padded shoes is detrimental to joint/foot health, i found it odd that the book ended with the barefoot runner being gibbled. Food for thought anyways.

I was road running in my trail runners for my first 2 seasons, and they were pretty minimally padded and forced me to lower my toes and ease onto my heel (as you would if your wear barefoot.) ie. naturally absorb shock impact rather than heel striking. - I have since upgraded to a top of the line road runner with ALOT of cushioning, and i wish i never had. Although they are extremely comfy, i am almost off balance using them and i could see them possibly causing knee problems. They essentially demand a heel strike. I wish i never bought them.

In the spring when i start running more often, i am going to buy a bare of merrel minimus's or something similar, a flat soled running shoe, to train in part time. The vibrams arn't appealing to me...




If I recall correctly, B. Ted ran the last race completely barefoot, not in vibrams.


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Re: Harvards Daniel E. Lieberman supports running in bare feet [Re: foliocb]
    #15364031 - 11/13/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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If I recall correctly, B. Ted ran the last race completely barefoot, not in vibrams.




We're both wrong, i just looked back in the book.

He had Manuel Luna show him how to make his own huraches the morning of race day, and on page 270 after he meets the author on the race course it refers to his "rubber toe slippers."

His tender toes are understandable, considering he'd never run in Huraches before .. still, food for thought though.


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