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Thats nonsense. Tell me that heroin is no more dangerous than crossing the road. Tell me that....
Heroin is no more dangerous than crossing the road. With the knowledge i have of heroin, i won't try it. I cross the road everyday, i was almost hit yesterday. Why would i do heroin if shrooms and MJ are legall, and i have knowledge of all substances?!
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100 years ago you could buy heroin over the counter. It was no bigger a deal than aspirin.
This again, is bullshit. Housewives across the country were dosing their children with heroin to make them sleep. A whole generation of people after the civil war were addicted terribly to heroin. Refute that...
Were those parents dosing thier children educated about heroin? Are there alternate natural sources that could be used if they were?
I don't think many people would use coke or heroin, if education and natural entheogens were also available.
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Thats nonsense. Tell me that heroin is no more dangerous than crossing the road. Tell me that....
In what sense do you mean "more dangerous"? Certainly more people are killed in traffic accidents every year than die from heroin. And remember that's illegal contaminated heroin that is many times more dangerous to use than pure legal heroin.
A whole generation of people after the civil war were addicted terribly to heroin.
Have you read the article I posted above? btw, it was opium - heroin wasn't invented at that time.
And as the article i posted pointed out, being addicted when you have a pure clean source of cheap heroin is no big problem. You can lead a perfectly healthy life.
If you make heroin available to a wider % of the population, not to mention cheaper, you REALLY think that more people wont use?
More people using isn't the problem. People abusing is the problem. How many people who use alcohol become alcoholics? Do you think the number of alcoholics would decrease if you banned alcohol? Do you think prohibition works in decreasing the number of people abusing drugs?
I guarantee you it will not work here
It already has. Heroin and opium were legal for decades.
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Xlea321]
#1541775 - 05/12/03 01:02 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everyone says if drugs were legalised many people would become coke and heroin addicts.
I disagree. If drug information was taught in highschool, combined with many entheogens that would be available, you wouldn't need or really want to use coke, or heroin.
Its the prohibition that creates the problem. All the war on drugs has done is replace the cost and availability of weed for coke.
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Xlea321]
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Have you read the article I posted above? btw, it was opium - heroin wasn't invented at that time.
Your right, your right. It was morphine. My mistake. Heroin was mass-marketed by Bayer 30 years later. THAT was when terrible heroin addiction kicked in.
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And as the article i posted pointed out, being addicted when you have a pure clean source of cheap heroin is no big problem. You can lead a perfectly healthy life.
I'm sorry. I know plenty of people who have used heroin for years and years. They all wish they would never have started. Tell me they lead perfectly happy lives. Nonsense....Like having 100% pure heroin would have made them happy people. Where's the logic there?
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Do you think the number of alcoholics would decrease if you banned alcohol?"
Do I think the number of current alcoholics would lower? No. Do I think LESS people would become alcoholics? Of course....Simple math says that if less people hav access to a substance, less people will become addicted to it.
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It already has. Heroin and opium were legal for decades.
And, as we've already establised, those drugs, during the time they were legal, did terrible damage to people. It did NOT work. That is a fact, not an opinion. Should you care for sources, I'll post them. Just ask.
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Azmodeus]
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If drug information was taught in highschool, combined with many entheogens that would be available, you wouldn't need or really want to use coke, or heroin.
I was taught all about drugs in school. Every year...And I still use...Why is that?
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Because your drug education was a farce. I think your very ignorant for using meth so often, but with your non-drug education, and the drugwar limiting available substances, i dont really blame ya. My non-drug education prevented me from trying until grade 12, and then i jumped into LSD use after smoking pot awhile....also very ignorant, but i wan't properly educated on aleternate substances, or even teh effects of the ones i had tried. This is the problem, and it always will be until we accept natural entheogens as legitimate and teach about thier properties to suseptible youth, lest we end up like our society today.
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THAT was when terrible heroin addiction kicked in.
Among a tiny, tiny minority. Most people used it like they used aspirin.
Nonsense....Like having 100% pure heroin would have made them happy people
No one thing can make you a "happy person". What it would do would enable them to lead normal lives instead of selling their arse on the street to earn enough money to fix. Diabetics are dependent on drugs too - why don't you see them robbing houses and getting involved in prostitution? Could it be because the drugs they need are legal?
There are many thousands of ex-soldiers who were addicted to heroin during treatment for war wounds. With clean pure supplies of heroin prescribed to them they lead healthy, active lives. I've seen a documentary with one 61 year old heroin addict was bench pressing 300lbs. Worked 12 hour days and injected once a day or every other day - heroin simply wasn't a problem in his life. If he'd had to find heroin on the street he would probably have died a long time ago. The black market is the danger, not the heroin.
And, as we've already establised, those drugs, during the time they were legal, did terrible damage to people
Not really. Pure heroin doesn't cause "terrible damage" to people. It's one of the most benign drugs on earth. It's addictive yes and I wouldn't advise anyone to get addicted to anything but "terrible damage"? No.
Heroin wasn't made illegal because of it's dangers to the public - it was made illegal for purely political reasons. Much like LSD was.
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Azmodeus]
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{Madtowntripper} You may be able to post links to all kinds of "sources" but from reading your posts I can clearly see that you dont really understand what we are trying to say. You hardly even seem to have a good grasp on "your" side of the debate,meaning you dont know or understand exactly what it is your fighting for or about.
11 yr old boys would probably NOT be going to the corner store looking for smack. And even if they did only a complete friggen moron would actually get it for them. And lets say some 11 yr old kid (I dont know why you focused on boys but you might want to think about getting help) DID get his hands on some well if he died how many of his friends do you think would try it?.....Or in the unlikely event he knew about proper dosage (or had an idiotic adult there to help him) and tried some what do you think would happen...I'll tell ya he would probably get sick as a phuck and NEVER touch the shit again. Almost anybody who has experimented with chewing tobacco as a child will agree.
Also things today are not as they used to be...It used to be that the popular kids all smoked now its a little different as most popular kids not only dont smoke but pick on those who do.
Like I said before if they did legalize drugs then yes alot of people will die there is no denying that. But I dont think that trend would not last very long at all and besides in a "free" country people should be allowed to kill themselves as it is our most basic "freedom" as human beings. Who are you or I or anybody else for that matter to say wether or not Joe Blow kills himself,we might as well be telling him how to dress what to eat and how to live his life. And to me thats not freedom.
And remember the drugs themselves are not evil they simply bring out and magnify the evil already within.
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: mycophat]
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Mmm...Alright. Where to start on this post...
11 year old boys wouldnt? Just like they arent hanging out in front of my corner store looking for pot and beer, I'm sure. Right? And I dont know where YOUR from, but here in Wisconsin, I'd say 40-50% of the male population back when I was in high school 5 or so years ago used chewing tobacco. Dont try and tell me kids dont do it. Thats just ignorant. And questioning someone's sexuality isnt a very effective debate topic where I come from. If you need a crutch to support your logic, find another one.
I'd bet that nearly everyone who drinks, when they got drunk the first time, probably got sick. I know *I* did. Do you think ALL those people never drank again? C'mon. Your arguments are so full of holes its not even funny....
And how long have you been out of school? I was the ONLY person I hung out with on a regular basis who didnt smoke. Every single teenager in high school smoked cigarettes, and continues to to this day. That is how I can guarantee you that having highly addictive drugs available anywhere to anyone would, big idea here, cause people to become addicted to said drugs! How can you deny this?! Its common sense!
And I'm not saying drugs are inherently evil. I use Methamphetamine, as anyone on this board can tell you, and I dont think the drug is evil. I think the drug can fuck with you. Its all a matter of willpower, common sense, and knowing when to say enough is enough. Americans as a whole completely lack all 3 of those. You see all these morbidly obese folks walking around? No willpower...You see basketball players making 20 million dollars to play a GAME? No common sense....You see political correctness running rampant to where my school has to change its name from Marquette Warriors, to the Marquette Golden Eagles? WTF is a golden eagle!? Nobody knows when to stop.
If you have any REAL reasons that drugs should be legal, besides pot, of which there is NO arguement against, lets hear them. But saying people arent going to become addicted is a fallacy, plain and simple.
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I use Methamphetamine, as anyone on this board can tell you, and I dont think the drug is evil.
how can you justify your use of narcotics, and then say other people don't have that right? thats plain ignorance, if you truly believed that drugs should be illegal, turn yourself into the police right now, and tell them where you buy your meth.
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#1542390 - 05/12/03 05:02 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Now Now...People DO use drugs. Nobody is aruging that? Right? What I'm saying is that if your going to legalize the drugs...MORE people are going to use them. I dont buy mine legally, so what I do has no bearing on this conversation. I'm not telling you, or anyone else, NOT to use drugs. Go out! Get fucked up! I do, on a regular basis. Its FUN. But if we're talking blanket legalization, I'm still going to say its a stupid idea...
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I agree with you for the most part on this one, MT. Pot should be legal immediately. Smack, coke, meth, - never. They're just too fucking addicitive and mind-shrinking. You'd still have junkies everywhere and you'd still have drug-related violent crimes cos people would be jonesing for that next hit. I think the only area we differ is on psychedlics. They're non addictive, mind expanding, and for the most part increase one's social conscience. Sure, it doesn't work like that for some folks - there'd be some bad trips, but i bet those persons would leave the shit alone once they realised they couldn't handle it.
My vision would be to have LSD as a prescription drug - available from a doctor of psychiatrist for 'mental therapy' on a regular, but not overly frequent basis - like once a month (you could horde your dose on those months you dont feel like tripping). You go see Doc, have a chat, and leave with pure LSD. Fucking hell, if i could be guaranteed to get LSD for New Orleans Mardi Gras, Jazzfest, Halloween, and a summer backpacking trip I'd be one happy MF!!
too bad it'll never happen.
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I'm not telling you, or anyone else, NOT to use drugs.
yes you are, by saying drugs should be illegal. but, only you are exempt right? your stance also suggests that its ok for users like me and you to be locked up in jail. don't even try to make an argument against it, you've contradicted yourself too much already.
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Learyfan]
#1542490 - 05/12/03 05:25 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was joking guys!
i knew you were trying to mess with us. I wasn't buying it.
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First off if 11 year old KIDS are hanging out at your corner store looking for pot ( or at least YOU think they are ) then they are just as dumb as you. And if they are trying to buy beer and nobody sells it to them whats the prob with that? Unless you personaly sell them the beer in the first place.
And I am from Boston Mass originaly and where I come from almost nobody does "chew" although a few groups did try "dip"for a while. But it may be different in the hick town you lived in.
And I did not question your sexuality as a topic of debate I made a personal observation of how you seem to think the only people on the planet who try to do drugs are 11 yr old boys.
Do you have any idea of how many people do not drink or do chew simply because they got real sick there first time.
By the way its been damn near 13 years since I was in high school and YES things have changed. My nephew is in high school now and he is one of the most popular kids in his school and while he drinks and smokes pot ocasionaly he did not run out and do crack,smack,or meth the first time he had a chance like some idiots around here. He never has and he says he never will why? Because he has more respect for himself and has learned from my,and a few others mistakes.
Perhaps you need to read my last statment again..... "Like I said before if they did legalize drugs then yes alot of people will die there is no denying that. But I dont think that trend would not last very long at all and besides in a "free" country people should be allowed to kill themselves as it is our most basic "freedom" as human beings. Who are you or I or anybody else for that matter to say wether or not Joe Blow kills himself,we might as well be telling him how to dress what to eat and how to live his life. And to me thats not freedom."
I never said people would not become addicted or die, its a natural part of life.....Now you tell me how you know for a fact that those who do die from drugs dont deserve to for abusing them in the first place and when your done with that you can tell me how you know for a fact that tose people would not have died in say a car wreck anyway. People die its sad but true and completely unavoidable.
And if you think you can abuse Meth and STILL have any willpower then you have no common sense.
"You see basketball players making 20 million dollars to play a GAME? No common sense"
Uh what planet are you from if somebody wanted to pay me 20 Mill to toss a ball through a hoop I would do it in a heartbeat. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or again has no common sense.
Its the people who pay those guys and buy the tickets who do not.
Oh and by the way you dont have to PM me with.....
"If you want to debate, we'll fucking debate. But dont put personal flames in there because you cant figure out a decent argument to support your fucked up position, okay?
I respect you, you respect me. You dont respect me, I dont respect you. Why would you want to cause drama and shit? "
Because I DONT respect you respect is earned not given. And until you grow up a little you wont have mine. Not that you need it. As you dont seem to respect yourself anyway.
One last question if they DID legalize ALL drugs how long do you think it would take before you OD on Meth? My guess not too long
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: mycophat]
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Alright. Let me respond to another one of your rants...Number 1: The problem is, Stupid people DO sell the kids beer and tobacco. Where do you think all these little 13 year old punks are getting cigarettes? Happy Meals? Think again...
I DID grow up in a hick town. Its fucking Wisconsin, what the fuck do you expect? Everyone there chews...Its the redneck thing to do. I dunno anything what you guys do over there in Bahstan....
And, by admitting you know nothing about high school, your completely unqualified to talk about the subject...NEXT...
Sure, People have a right to die and whatever, thats fine. But when it affects MY quality of life, its not okay with me. Fuck that. Die if you want too, I dont care. Read one of my previous posts if your gonna argue with me...
And what the fuck? So, anyone who has EVER abused a drug has no willpower? What if they quit? I suppose that doesnt count....Once again, READ my posts if your gonna talk shit...
And sure, I'm not knocking a b-ball player who makes the money. I'm knocking the fucking society that PAYS someone 20M to do it. Thats fucking DUMB. Deal with it.
And dont tell me that I'm gonna OD. Fuck, I have access to all the pure, unadulterated meth that I want. I have for years. I'm not dead yet. I'm much more likely to die from a brain aneurysm after reading one of your posts. Thank you. Come again.
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I have access to all the pure, unadulterated meth that I want. I have for years. I'm not dead yet. I'm much more likely to die from a brain aneurysm after reading one of your posts. Thank you. Come again.
Funny I always get a good laugh out of yours
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And, by admitting you know nothing about high school, your completely unqualified to talk about the subject...NEXT...
Exactly when did I say that again? Hmmmm...I didnt
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But when it affects MY quality of life, its not okay with me.
May I assume you are talking about this post as your explaination of how it effects your "quality of life"
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If it affects me, I'm damn well going to work towards MY best interests. I have no desire to have 11 year old boys propositioning me for heroin outside 7/11. I dont want to some crazy mad fucking hippie running up to my car at a stop light telling me god told him this, or god told him that. And I Sure as HELL dont want to trip over junkies on my way into Mcdonalds. Ya know?
If so I thought kids were already hanging outside you corner store asking you to buy them beer and pot. And if you ever left your quiet little town you would know that there already bums ,addicts, and general pains in the ass's that will walk right up to your car and not only tell you God said this or God said that but will gladly wash your windows for a buck in every major city.(and its not only because of the drugs but the fact that their government would rather fund wars than feed its people.) And as for stepping over junkies to get into your local Micky D's you need to get out more because that too is known to happen every now and then.
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So, anyone who has EVER abused a drug has no willpower
Read that sentence once or twice....If someone had any willpower whatsoever would they ABUSE a drug? No....and the ones who quit have REGAINED their willpower that they lost.
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And sure, I'm not knocking a b-ball player who makes the money. I'm knocking the fucking society that PAYS someone 20M to do it. Thats fucking DUMB. Deal with it
LMAO read your own post I have dealt with it and your stupidity as well. As you would read in your post it says...
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I see no mention of society there...Now here again is what I said...
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Uh what planet are you from if somebody wanted to pay me 20 Mill to toss a ball through a hoop I would do it in a heartbeat. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or again has no common sense.
Its the people who pay those guys and buy the tickets who do not.
Now my post on the other hand mentions the people who buy the tickets. So how am I wrong there? In your own words....
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: mycophat]
#1543564 - 05/12/03 11:00 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh and by the way by your logic because of AIDS sex should also be illegal. Well lets see now.....hmmmm...If sex were illegal nobody would die of AIDS I'll give you that but then again it would also mean the possible end of the human race not to mention all that fun. Nope I'd say its more of an exceptable risk as most would agree.
Lets face it the world is a dangerous place and it gets worse as time goes buy. The days of leave it to beaver are long gone and there is not much we can do about it. But refusing to legalize something that has been proven to have both medical and spiritual/Sociological uses simply because its scary,or will kill people,or is an inconvience is futile because as I have said before the world is a scary,deadly,and bothersome place to live in and that not going to change no matter what our stance on the legalization of drugs is. Although we have yet to see what the legalization would bring who knows maybe after the dust settled there would be more peace. All I know is things have been done the same way for a long enough time without ANY good coming out of it.
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: mycophat]
#1543708 - 05/12/03 11:34 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have to completly disagree with everything madtowntripper has said. First off why is he so worried about 11 year old kids begging people to buuy them drugs from cornerstores, rather then 11 year old kids going down the block to a dealer now and getting it as long as they have money, without any trouble whatsoever? The fact is legalization will STOP kids from getting drugs, becasue dealers could not compete with the prices the government regulated, and if there were no dealers then kids would have to go through alot of trouble to get them. Dealers don't care how old you are, as long as you have money you have drugs. Watch the movie Traffic "I don't like alcohol too much, for someone my age its alot easier to get drugs then it is to get alcohol."
There will always be kids who use drugs, but it is also known that having it illigal also causes them to want to use it more, the curiousity, the "forbidden fruit" theory, and just plain peer pressure.
About you saying how much willpower you have and such, denial is the first symptom of addiction, and only 6% of meth addicts every get and stay clean. Meth is one of the most dangerous drugs out there, to your brain and your body not even mentioning the addiction.
I understand where your coming from I really do but the fact is the government doesn't have the right to say what a person can or cannot do unless they are hurting someone else. Just because drugs are legal doesn't mean that there will be junkies all over the streets, most junkies stay inside because they in fact are ashamed of themselves. You think they will robb you for money for thier next fix? No they won't, they do that now because one gram of heroin costs 20+ dollars. If regulated it would be less then a 10th of that price. The other reason is they can't work because of drug tests, if it were legal they could work while using, and make money and afford thier drug of choice, just like all those tobacco addicts out there who live full and normal lives.
I just find it funny that your so against legalization but say so many times that you use. You seem to think you're better then everyone else that they won't be smart enough to decide to use or not and automatically get addicted, while you taking meth for years don't have any sort of problem whatsoever. I just feel sorry for how close minded you are. I do agree that most of american's are close minded and ignorent, but that works for the process of legalization, if most people are so horribly against it and all the lies and propaganda that the government has fed to them what makes you think the second they become legal everyone will become addicted? I personally don't see the reason for using heroin or meth or coke if i had Weed and pychedelics easily available to me(and those drugs have been used to help treat heroin, alcohol and cocain addiction) and i suspect most people would feel the same.
Look at the numbers now, 120,000 people have admitted to have used heroin in the past month, and there are only 4,000-5,000 deaths due to drug od(all drugs combined)94.1 million americans over age 12 have used drugs at least once in thier lifetime(thats 41.7% of the population) do you really think legalization of the drugs will cause more people to use, get addicted, or die? Considering that over 85% of drug related deaths are caused by the fact that they are illigal and not to the drug themselves, not legalizing the drugs just seems stupid to informed people. Seriously, think about it.
Sources:
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, US Department of Health and Human Services, Results from the 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Volume 1. Summary of National Findings (Rockville, MD: Ofice of Applied Studies, August 2002), p. 109, Table H.1 & p. 110, Table H.2.
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, US Department of Health and Human Services, Results from the 2001 National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Volume 1. Summary of National Findings (Rockville, MD: Ofice of Applied Studies, August 2002), p. 109, Table H.1; p. 110, Table H.2; p. 129, Table H.21; and p. 130, Table H.22.
U.S. Government Bureau of Mortality Statistics
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