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OfflineJohnnyRespect
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1535922 - 05/09/03 10:04 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I am for "blanket legalization" of every drug known to man. I don't think we should make substances that alter consciousness illegal what-so-ever.

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1535945 - 05/09/03 10:18 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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.. it seems to me that an awful lot of you are advocating blanket legalization. And I stand by my statement that such a thing would not be good....




I find that to be an interesting point of view for someone on this board. What's your opinion on blanket legalisation of other drugs - not cannabis, but meth, cocaine or other opiates for example?


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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1536094 - 05/09/03 11:34 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Heh. NO.  LSD should NOT be legal.

Consider that something like 75% of the United States population cant even find the U.S. on a world map.




yeah...look at what we have *without* LSD.....I mean, if america is gonna be stupid, have a reasonable excuse....LSD is the answer.... :grin: 

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1536133 - 05/09/03 11:54 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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I One major problem with current policy towards LSD is that ANY use - be it recreational, therapeutical, or for research purposes by licensed practitioners - is illegal. To the best of my knowledge, you can't even study the shit legally under laboratory conditions.




Not quite....look at this link....it's puzzled me for a couple of years now....
WHo Makes it...
When was this produced
Damn....they locked down the MSDS sheet....otherwise you would get to see who the ONLY buyer is....Remember, no valid medical or theriputic use, and if thats the case and it cant be sold to anyone, why are they making it....take my word for it...it the US military...I copied it a couple of years ago....gotta find it now...somethings about to happen....



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Damn good post, Prisoner 1. I've been thinking about this awhile and for what its worth, you've motivated me to write my congressman.




mine hates me....Newt, when he was speaker of the house....told me to 'QUIT'
but I never listen, now I'm on the nutcake list...thanks....

I'll rip what I can from the site...you'd all be amazed how much they do....but now it should give you more reason to write

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1536140 - 05/09/03 11:59 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Blanket legalization? or just LSD/Psilocybin....

it could be either way...but it's no different than Beer, Lortab or the Ephidrine pills you get at the convienience stores....in fact it's not as harmful, *no* chance of an OD, *no* chance of a poisoning unless it's from a clandestine lab....hell, they need to throw the dog a bone because if the keep pulling away it's food the dog will bite...
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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536240 - 05/10/03 12:53 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Well here is my 2 cents...Legalize ALL drugs or at the very least any drug that will grow naturally in the wild. Why you may ask because maybe they are also one of the Earth's natural ways of population controll.

OK so a few 100,000 or so may OD and kill themselves in a decade or two ( hell maybe even alot more in a lot less) but exactly what kind of people are we talking about? Anyone with half a brain and an instinct to live will not go nearly that far. And with them all legal others wont just do more cause they may not be able to do them again for a long time or in a hurry cause they are too paranoid. For the most part the only ones who will die probably are not exactly the cream of the crop anyway.

Now I know alot of you bleeding heart's out there will be upset by this but it actually IS the natural order of things. Every life form on Earth has at least one or more other life forms that either hunt it for food or kill it for territory. But what exactly is keeping the human race in check?.....well the only thing I can think of that kills humans every day is....no suprise humans. We kill each other everyday for oil ,for land ,for money, for drugs, and hell sometimes for no particular reason at all.

Perhaps somewhere in our subconscious we know that there is no other lifeform out there keeping us in check so we simply do the job ourselves.

And besides its better in the long run when thinking of evolving into a higher life form. One way animals evolve is through the "only the strong survive" (so to say) method.

Possibly one reason why human beings dont seem to have evolved more than what we have could be that there are too many unnecessary genes out there in "the collective".

So maybe the Earth knew of the coming of mankind and provided us with a different method of natural selection.The slow weak minded of our race would kill itself off,while the rest of the world could live on in peace and happieness with the aid of some simple plant life and fungi.

When it comes right down to it every life form on the planet both plant and animal has a carefully balanced set of check and balances to keep any one life form, from for all good purposes destroying their world.....EXCEPT humans and it looks to me like if anyone or anything is going to destroy our world right now it is us......Not the bunnies.
:grin:

Edited by mycophat (05/10/03 12:56 AM)

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536429 - 05/10/03 03:30 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, I like the way you think.

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otherwise you would get to see who the ONLY buyer is....the US military...



Those fucking pricks! and they've probably been hording all the good shit and doing something stupid with it.

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I'll rip what I can from the site...you'd all be amazed how much they do....but now it should give you more reason to write



get it whenever you can. feel free to pm me anytime with anything about this topic. I'll join you on the nutcake list for what its worth. Are you worried about at all about your letters giving them an excuse to come kick your door?



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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: mycophat]
    #1536435 - 05/10/03 03:37 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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When it comes right down to it every life form on the planet both plant and animal has a carefully balanced set of check and balances to keep any one life form, from for all good purposes destroying their world.....EXCEPT humans




In Food of the Gods, Terrence Mckenna theorizes that the substances placed on earth to keep humankind in check are none other than psilicybin mushrooms and other natural plant hallucinogens. Think about it - what other substance places you in greater mental balance with nature than psychedelics? Unfortunately, the dominator culture has everyone convinced that al drugs are evil, and as a consequence, the planet is doomed.


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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1536634 - 05/10/03 08:08 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

IMO it's a good idea to keep LSD and other substances under control, but the current DEA scheduling / enforcement is fucked:

www.nida.nih.gov/DrugsofAbuse.html

Note that while LSD, marijuana, and psilocybin are considered Schedule I (higher potential for abuse / no medical use / stiffer penalties), methamphetamine and cocaine are in Schedule II.

WTF?

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536651 - 05/10/03 08:32 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Great article!

LSD is a gift, it's about time someone defends it.

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536659 - 05/10/03 08:44 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Fantastic article!

Good work. Legalize all drugs. No one should have the right to tell us what we can do to our bodies unless we are harming another in the action.

Cheers,

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: boxtop703]
    #1536679 - 05/10/03 09:09 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Great article!

LSD is a gift, it's about time someone defends it.




You are just the man....well maybe all of us are....seriously, call, write and personaly visit your state and fed reps asap.... I own a few suits and look nice when I'm all cleaned up....you'd mistake me for a lawyer....

dont ask how this tidbit caught my eye...it's burried on MSN....no one would find it there...

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: ]
    #1536682 - 05/10/03 09:12 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Look...link to this thread anywhere you happen to browse....it's actualy become quite interesting....and this needs a bit of support...if nothing else link to the article EVERY WHERE....lets not let progress stand in the way of progress....

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536942 - 05/10/03 12:24 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Jimsuzo I have never read food of the gods or any of Terrence Mckenna's work as of yet but I already like the way he thinks. I will have to go and find myself a copy and see what else he has to say.

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1537044 - 05/10/03 01:18 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Another conspiracy theory - "LSD should be legalized".

Pardon my editorial laugh. Why don't you people get an education before you make such ridiculous statements.

Until 100% of the human populous can take LSD safely it should stay locked away from everyone. Ask Syd Barrett if LSD is good for you...........if you can find him.



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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Learyfan]
    #1537308 - 05/10/03 04:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Another conspiracy theory - "LSD should be legalized".

Pardon my editorial laugh. Why don't you people get an education before you make such ridiculous statements.

Until 100% of the human populous can take LSD safely it should stay locked away from everyone. Ask Syd Barrett if LSD is good for you...........if you can find him.



Why should it stay locked away? If you take a look around at your world you'll realize nerely nothing is 100% safe for everyone. In fact of the top of my head I cant think of anything. Just to name afew quick things that are not "locked away from everyone" even tho "100% of the human population" cant use them safely: cars, alcohol, kitchen knifes, junk food, video games, glass cups, electrical appliance, boats, asprin, viagra, pools, birth control, cell phone, metal scissors, earrings, chemical clearers. Thats just afew without going into the harder ones like guns etc.

You should get abit more educated before making such ridiculous statements.

Also this isn't saying your uneducated, I'm just protecting myself from any chance of you saying I didn't quote you correctly...I spelt "populous" differently.

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Learyfan]
    #1537331 - 05/10/03 04:21 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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[image]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:5qnW7AaDz1oC:members.aol.com/pgrsel/barrett/desktop1s.jpg[/image]



Wow, I just noticed you dont think pot should be legal either. This is definately not where you should be posting...

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: DailyPot]
    #1537400 - 05/10/03 04:50 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Leary fan...ha ha ha you are a funny guy. Must not be a fan of Tim Leary or of drugs in general. Tobacco kills,guns,kill,Perscription drugs kill (sometimes) but only idiots OD on LSD,pot,shrooms,and the like ,so perhaps YOU should not do it as it would probably kill you.

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Learyfan]
    #1537864 - 05/10/03 08:59 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Pardon me but I think I can speak intelligently on the subject without resorting to derision.

The fact is, as has been mentioned, that there are plenty of things that can harm you. Passing laws because it limits harm is the poorest reason in some cases.

Drug laws are one of the best examples of that.

Under your premise ALL drugs should be outlawed because ALL drugs can cause harm.

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Re: should LSD be legal [Re: Learyfan]
    #1538041 - 05/10/03 10:06 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Until 100% of the human populous can take LSD safely it should stay locked away from everyone. Ask Syd Barrett if LSD is good for you...........if you can find him.




Strangely enough...I feel that way about asprin...and advil, and every prescription drug that has been pushed on the american public....ever been to a doctor that gave samples to you until you could get your scrip filled....experimental...still, real patients are the last testing ground before FDA aproval....

Hey...I feel that way about hormones that they inject cattle with in order to fatten them up and get them to produce more milk...the shit has residual effects and the FDA says 'it's ok, you dont consume it directly'....people didnt directly consume Dioxin Orange or DDT either, look at what had happened to them and the bald eagle.

Lock away liquor, beer and wine, what good have they done for society....tell me a bit about LSD and the dangers of the drug....and for each I'll show you 10 scrips that have worse and longerlasting effects...Zomax....I like that one....I was a guinea pig....I gotta beef...

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