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Rye Jars Stalling
    #1534628 - 05/09/03 02:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hello,
I'd like to thank everyone for their generous nature when sharing info, it's helped me countless times.

My problem is with rye jars. They seem to begin according to plan but after innoculation and my first "shake of the jar" I've noticed no further mycelium growth. Does this sound like excessive CO2?

I use polyfill in the jars, but i wonder if maybe I've packed the holes with too much polyfill and thus restricted airflow.
Any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: lumpus]
    #1534675 - 05/09/03 02:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Any colonization at all? Do they smell bad? Are they too dry?

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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: lumpus]
    #1534686 - 05/09/03 02:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

bacterial contamination? do they smell?


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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: micro]
    #1534700 - 05/09/03 03:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, after 5 days there was 2 small spots of growth.
I was very careful with my water/grain ratio, I don't think they are too dry.
There is an odour, but I wouldn't say it is "bad".
Temp. is approximately 84 deg.


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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: Anno]
    #1534712 - 05/09/03 03:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've noticed no contamination but they do have an odour about them.


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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: lumpus]
    #1534721 - 05/09/03 03:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

What kind of an odour? Maybe bacteria or yeast. If the water is ok they should have grown a lot more but if there is contaminant in it you just spread it evenly throughout the whole jar by shaking it.


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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: micro]
    #1534842 - 05/09/03 04:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

what water to grain ratio did u use, i did it exactly my first time and the recipe was off, maybe ur grain is drier than theres was, there's gonna be a smell of grain, kinda smells like tea to me, but is it a sour odour?


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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: MykeOfile]
    #1534885 - 05/09/03 04:22 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I used 1 cup of grain with 220ml of water.
It's not a sour smell. [ would a sour smell indicate bacterial contamination?]
The first batch I tried I let soak overnight and observed no sign of colonization or contamination.
The 2nd batch [current] I did not soak, there was some initial colonization but nothing further. [approx. 16 days without further colonization]

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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: lumpus]
    #1534912 - 05/09/03 04:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

sour/trashy/vinegary smell = bacteria (usually)
wine/alcoholic smell = yeast (usually)

If it stopped growing when you shook it 99% chance it's contamination.

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Re: Rye Jars Stalling [Re: micro]
    #1535018 - 05/09/03 04:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Would you suggest soaking the grain overnight before sterilising ?


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