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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: cateyes]
#15336995 - 11/07/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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shr said: this is what i've always thought "add" was..simply an evolution of the brain cause by, in my opinion, the technologies we use everyday

it's caused by cell metabolism dysfunction and allergies that manifest as brain dysfuntion instead of a runny nose or skin rash... seriously...
Kensho 
really that's interesting! allergies leading to ADD i would have never known! I get rashes and allergies up the ass so does that mean I am far from ADD because my histamine response is superb!
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: Apostle]
#15337001 - 11/07/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hologram said: I dont even fuck with meth i was just trying to point out that someones behavior changing when they take a drug doesnt imply a pre-exsisting condition requiring them to be prescribed said drug.
It does when (1) the person habitually engages in behaviors that are indicative of that condition, (2) taking the drug consistently and clearly results in a change in those behaviors, and (3) said changes in behavior are decidedly atypical compared to what happens when normal people take the drug. Your point is, technically, correct in some situations but we're obviously talking about special cases.
The existence of ADHD has been borne out by numerous studies relying on a wide range of evidence including neuroimaging and genetic markers. Just because some doctors are a bit script-happy doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: 5-HT2A]
#15337017 - 11/07/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Adderall and its Generic Amphetamine equivalent, as well as dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) Instant Release forms are all out of stock. This is because the DEA sets quotas on API (active pharmaceutical ingredient) for Schedule 2 (CII) drugs. The quotas for amphetamines has not been raised, while the demand has increased. That led to manufacturers meeting their quota limit late this past summer.
Another drug, oxycodone, has API quotas as well, however, the DEA has greatly increased the limit on oxycodone to levels above the currently soaring demand.
Ask any pharmacy to do a stock check on most amphetamines and they'll have none. Do the stock check on any oxycodone drug and the numbers exceed 2 digits.
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: cateyes]
#15337024 - 11/07/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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what causes this dysfunction?
Edited by shr (11/07/11 04:40 PM)
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: shr]
#15337131 - 11/07/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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shr said: what causes this dysfunction?
Bunch of hows and whys and competing (and not always contradictory) theories, but the simplest good explanation I've heard is that ADHD people have dopamine deficiencies, and the parts of your brain that deal with attention and planning rely a lot on dopamine receptors. Amphetamines increase dopamine levels and prevent the dopamine that does get released when your neurons fire from being absorbed back by the neuron that released it - which sort of means that your neurons get stuck in the "on" position.
The reason ADHD people can be hyperactive and tweaked out is that it's really hard for them to focus on things - their neurons don't respond to stimuli very well. You oil them up, and they can suddenly pay attention. But if you take too much (which is what usually happens when people take amphetamines, since most people have enough dopamine), then you start focusing on ALL THE THINGS and you can't prioritize.

And that is why a meth-head is a meth-head.
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: Gorlax]
#15337496 - 11/07/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: really that's interesting! allergies leading to ADD i would have never known! I get rashes and allergies up the ass so does that mean I am far from ADD because my histamine response is superb!
it's not as simple as just allergies but allergies do play a role... allergy reactions manifest themselves in different ways from one group to the next... you respond by developing a rash, that rash is imflamation... children and adults with add/adhd develop mild brain inflammation from the allergens... just about all of these allergens are directly linked processed foods... unrelated but i'll include it anyway, schizophrenics, schizoaffectives, bipolars with psychosis and depressives with psychosis suffer the same problem, not saying it's their only issue but part of it... i highly recommended a child or adult with add/adhd eliminate all processed foods from their diet... it is also very important to eliminate ALL sugar especially alcohol... these foods and sucrose cause cell dysfunction, which is the beginning stages of hundreds of diseases and disorders... you don't need sugar, the body has the ability to manufacture glucose out of protein if its absolutely necessary but it's better to consume fruit because it eliminates the need for protein conversion to glucose... the sugars are bound up in the fiber of the fruit which insures a slow, steady release into the blood stream... besides being the best source for glucose production, fructose is valuable in increasing the amount of transport proteins, which are very important in moving molecules across cell membranes... it's how cells bring in energy and eliminate waste... i noticed you conveniently left out the point i made about cell dysfunction... one would think a botanical researcher might have an open mind, but some people here know everything i've discovered... did you know that there are herbs/botanicals that could be used to help treat add/adhd? there are! your a botanical researcher, you should know this... daily aerobic exercise is very important also, it helps in dopamine levels naturally... specific supplements and herbs are also used to treat people with add/adhd...
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Gorlax said:I get rashes and allergies up the ass so does that mean I am far from ADD because my histamine response is superb!

do some research...
Kensho
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: shr]
#15337699 - 11/07/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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shr said: what causes this dysfunction?
i responded to another poster who challenged me... please check out that post... believe it or not, it all boils down to all processed foods and table sugar... these foods are empty calories... the manufacturer will say this cereal is fortified with vitamins and minerals... technically it is but its in a form that is completely unavailable for use by the body... these foods also contain allergens, one group of people might develop a runny nose, another might be prone to rashes, some people become tired, the list goes on... in children and adults with addd/adhd they respond with mild brain inflammation... these foods and sugars cause cell dysfunction which is the initial step of ALL disease and disorders... we didn't have cancer rates like we do today... we didn't have obesity(caused by insulin resistance of the cell), and we certainly didn't have add/adhd years ago, it didn't exist! fifty years ago the rates of these diseases were very low because our grand parents ate natural unprocessed foods... our modern diet brought on serious disease... the food industry knows this because educated consumer groups challenged them and tried to bring it to congress but the food industry lobby is very powerful and prevented any hearings from occurring... as citizens we have to take responsibility for ourselves it seems because corporations and congress are not looking out for us...
i noticed someone explained the role of dopamine in the process... dopamine does play a role but it's not the big picture... it's cell inflammation... instead of taking adderal to elevate dopamine you could begin to eliminate sugar and coffee and start using supplements, amino acids and healthy foods that are natural catalysts for dopamine production... exercise is an excellent way to increase dopamine levels... the typical american child sits in front of the TV playing video games while drinking cheap juices and munching garbage, the typical adult watches TV while drinking soda and stuffing their faces with potato chips... like i stated before, we are animals by nature, we need exercise and good food everyday...
i hope this helped you understand a little better... PeaCe2U
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: cateyes]
#15337782 - 11/07/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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... Adderall works for me.
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: cateyes]
#15337807 - 11/07/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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thanks for the post
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Re: U.S. - Adderall shortage 'one of the worst' [Re: shr]
#15341878 - 11/08/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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