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RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES******
    #1533307 - 05/09/03 03:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This woman I admire people please read this and find the link to rachel.http://www.pchrgaza.org/
Or go direct http://www.pchrgaza.org/images/2003/rachel/main.htm
Please educate yourself you will be glad.
The occupation itself is illegal; numerous resolutions of the UN Security Council (which are binding on UN member states) since 1967 have called for an Israeli withdrawal. Moreover, the Commission on Human Rights has also repeatedly called for a withdrawal and affirmed that the "Israeli military occupation in itself constitutes a grave violation of the human rights of the Palestinian people."[2]
According to PCHR’s documentation, Israeli occupying forces and settlers have killed 2072 Palestinians in the Occupied Palestinian Territories



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[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]


Edited by trev (05/11/03 05:16 AM)


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: trev]
    #1533765 - 05/09/03 06:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That woman was a brian dead moron. Standing in front of a bulldozer was an act of blatant stupidity and her removal from the planet can only improve the gene pool.


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1533810 - 05/09/03 07:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Do you honestly think a young intelligent woman who was passionate enough about her beliefs to lay her own life on the line is no loss to the gene pool?Considering the millions of T.V drones who sit in front of the box, shovelling crap into their minds and crap into their stomachs whilst slowly getting obese in the belly and the brain, Id say we cant afford to lose people like her lightly!


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: GazzBut]
    #1533819 - 05/09/03 07:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If she was as smart as you seem to think, she'd have moved out of the way.

Standing up for what you believe is admirable. Standing in front of a bulldozer is stupid.


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1533898 - 05/09/03 08:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

PEACE


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** *DELETED* [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1534049 - 05/09/03 10:44 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Post deleted by jimsuzo

yes it was a flame - somewhat indirect, but a flame nonetheless.

sorry -

RIP Rachel


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1534083 - 05/09/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

aaaand that would be a flame.


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1534635 - 05/09/03 02:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Standing up for what you believe is admirable. Standing in front of a bulldozer is stupid. 




I agree! :grin:


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1534827 - 05/09/03 03:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

WARNING GRAPHIC****

YOURE PREACIOUS TAX DOLLARS SUPPORTS ISREILS MURDER
This man was sheilding women and children from a sniper at a mosque
Imagine if he was an arab.


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[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: trev]
    #1534944 - 05/09/03 04:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

that's a good way to die.

who shot him?


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: ]
    #1535428 - 05/09/03 07:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have compassion, but To go to a foriegn country, one that has contempt for the us, yes israel is included, and stand with the palistinians and help them to build a better nation is fine...arm yourself and kill those that stand in your way of building, to stand in front of a military vehicle and evpect it to stop for you is foolish, the military is trained to kill with out discrimination....even their own countrymen.

Be armed, prepared to kill, but be smart and quit shooting rubberbands at the tanks

in order to stop the shit...it takes but a few simple steps:
Cut all support for the United States...inform your employer that you need to change your tax forms to reflect your new status...If you were born on this country you are a native american...many of my people were here long before it was 'settled' and I am an indian by early definition...I dont believe in Politicaly Correct BS....the name we had called ourselves is the people...because that is what we are, I am supposed to have exempt status but because I will not live on a reservation I will not recieve it, I can get a tribal council card, but I do not want the casino money that comes with it....But if you are a resident by birth, you are native to this land...

refuse to pay the federal government another nickel until they pull out of the UN and NATO, Reform Foriegn Policy to reflect no more foriegn aid...most countries have a very rich upper class, let the people fight for themselves bucause we are too small to fight for them and for us....and right now, it is us we need to fight for, bankrupt and close the FEDS.


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1535732 - 05/09/03 10:11 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So, should that guy in Tianneman Square have just...Gotten out of the way?

You people wouldnt know courage if it bit you in the ass....


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1535790 - 05/09/03 10:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you dont know me....and he shouldnt have placed himself in the situation....my real question is which guy....a list of 155 dead and 65 wounded ages from 9 to 61....and thats just the begining.....have you ever been to the forbiden city, Beijing...are you even familliar with the Falun Gong...

April 15
Former Party General Secretary Hu Yaobang, deposed in 1987, dies of a massive heart attack. People began to gather in Tiananmen Square to commemorate Hu and voice their discontents.
April 22
The official memorial service for Hu Yaobang is held in the Great Hall of the People. Demanding to meet with Premier Li Peng, three student representatives carry a petition and kneel on the steps of the Great Hall in front of the 100,000 students who have gathered in the Square the night before. Li Peng does not respond, and the students refuse to let minor officials pass on the petition. Angered by official apathy, students begin boycotting classes.
April 26
The Communist Party newspaper People's Daily publishes an editorial accusing a "small handful of plotters" of stirring up student unrest and creating turmoil in order to overthrow the Communist Party and the socialist system.
April 27
*****Ignoring warnings of violent suppression, students from more than 40 universities march to Tiananmen in protest of the April 26th editorial.
May 4
Party General Secretary Zhao Ziyang, in a meeting with foreign bankers, makes a speech which in essence contradicts the April 26th People's Daily editorial.
May 13
Several hundred students begin a hunger strike at Tiananmen Square in the afternoon.
May 14
Second day of hunger strike. In the afternoon, elected student representatives charged with the responsibility for dialogue with the government begin formal talks with the government. The talks breaks down because the promised broadcast does not materialize. In the early evening, twelve of China's most famous writers and scholars present their emergency appeals at the Square, calling on the government to acknowledge the movement as a patriotic democracy movement and calling on the students to end their hunger strike. Their efforts fail.
May 15
Third day of hunger strike. Gorbachev arrives in Beijing for the first Sino-Soviet summit since 1959. The government cancels plans to welcome Gorbachev at Tiananmen Square.
May 18
Sixth day of hunger strike. Li Peng summons several student leaders for a televised talk at the Great Hall of the People. Nothing is achieved. The government prepares to declare martial law.
May 19
Seventh day of hunger strike. The government's plan for martial law is leaked to student leaders, who call off the hunger strike and declare a mass sit-in.
The Independent Workers Union (IWU) is founded at Tiananmen Square.
In an evening speech, Premier Li Peng calls for "firm and resolute measures to end the turmoil swiftly."
May 20
*****The government formally declares martial law in Beijing, but the army's advance towards the city is blocked by large numbers of students and citizens.
May 23
The troops pull back to the outskirts of Beijing.
The Alliance to Protect the Constitution is set up in order to coordinate the actions of the various groups involved in the movement.
May 24
The Defend Tiananmen Square Headquarters is set up. Chai Ling is named Commander-in-Chief.
May 27
The Alliance to Protect the Constitution decides by a unanimous vote to recommend that the students end their occupation of the Square on May 30th. The resolution is announced at a press conference in the Square.
May 28
*****The Defend Tiananmen Square Headquarters rejects the May 27th resolution to end the occupation of Tiananmen Square.
Chai Ling gives a long interview to Philip Cunningham, an American journalist.
May 30
The ten-meter-high Goddess of Democracy is unveiled.
June 2
At 5:00 pm, Liu Xiaobo, Hou Dejian, Zhou Duo and Gao Xin start a hunger strike in Tiananmen Square.
June 3
*****Troops receive orders to reclaim Tiananmen Square at all cost. Around 10:00 pm, soldiers open fire on people who try to block the army's advance, as well as on those who are simply shouting at the troops. Tanks and armored personnel carriers move toward the center of the city. Many people in the streets are killed or wounded, including bystanders.
June 4
Around 1:00 am, troops surround Tiananmen Square and await further orders.
Around 4:00 am, the four men who began a hunger strike on June 2 negotiate with the troops to allow the students to leave the Square.
Around 5:00 am, several thousand students, and their teachers and supporters leave the Square at gunpoint.

Why didn't they leave....they were outnumbered, outgunned...so...were they afraid of retribution...it happened anyway....most that were there then are dead now, the government wasn't so forgiving.

***Remember hearing about Kent State....military forces against unarmed students, this was in america...where were the police during this peaceful protest., a little one sided on the peaceful part....The first US conviction for Civil Disobedience was handed down because of the event....

I am very familiar with Tianamin Square...events like this have occured since 1919, it's the slaughter grounds for China, it is where you go to die a violent death...Rachel Corrie was not a brave person, she was foolish, are you brave when you step in front of a train, no you are stupid or suicidal....as was she, placing yourself infront of a 7 ton death machine is not brave, especialy when you know the penalty....brave is overtaking the driver and turning the machines against your enemy....violence cannot be fought with peace

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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536560 - 05/10/03 08:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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who shot him?



An Israeli sniper
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the activists were being shot at while protecting some children from Israeli gunfire. Tom was in plain view of the sniper towers and was wearing a bright orange fluorescent jacket with reflective stripes.



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violence cannot be fought with peace






I see youre point I also see there point. Would we be talking about the occupation if it wasnt for westeners getting killed ??? I THINK NOT this is an expensive and sad illustration of the situation which the U.S. supports. So what do you suggest I do kill the next american I see??
Ghandi and the english occupation is one example of violence & occupation being overcome with peace.


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[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: trev]
    #1536718 - 05/10/03 11:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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who shot him?



An Israeli sniper



the activists were being shot at while protecting some children from Israeli gunfire. Tom was in plain view of the sniper towers and was wearing a bright orange fluorescent jacket with reflective stripes.



violence cannot be fought with peace




I see youre point I also see there point. Would we be talking about the occupation if it wasnt for westeners getting killed ??? I THINK NOT this is an expensive and sad illustration of the situation which the U.S. supports. So what do you suggest I do kill the next american I see??




Kiss the next american you see...maybe they will think you are gay...or french, either way they will want to kill you....unless its a girl...

Back on the subject, violence leads to violence, peace leads to violence, pacifism leads to violence....all roads lead to....america....tax money is the answer...if it isnt in their hands they cant use it to support BS wars and political conflicts...how can you buy a tank if you gots no cash....you cant gas up, load up or get tanked up with out a little loot....you want non-violent...here it is....

request your money back, you are dis-satisfied with the service that has been provided, when was the last time you were protected by those that serve, keep in mind protection is preventing an event from occuring, not taking a report *after the fact*...when is the last time the *people* voted an an issue having the same point of view as yours....frequently but the legislation didnt go that way...
when was the last time that real people actualy voted on an issue...states increase fines and fees with an 'internal' vote, you have no idea because it is a private matter....

check this out...one man...one decision.... one stroke of the pen and it a law
Presidential Decision Directives
can you tell me what the blank ones are....classified, no one knows but it controls your life, if funds terrorism, kills americans and civilians all over the world

When you ask for your refund....do it in court...sue for billions, millions mean nothing anymore...

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Ghandi and the english occupation is one example of violence & occupation being overcome with peace.




look around at the world today....children a packing arms, blacks are killing blacks, whites on whites and families are turning against each other...when ghandi was sitting and starving people had more respect for each other...now, you dont even know your neighbors...your children are taught nothing about respect of property or persons....we live in controlled chaos....

any idea what would happer to ghandi if he tried it today....bulldozer....and never wear a fluorescent vest with reflective strips in a combat zone....thats like putting antlers on your head and running around in the woods during hunting season... dont be a Fudd....

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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536740 - 05/10/03 12:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Do you have a veggie garden pay taxes all that crap???
What do you suggest Terrorisim Apathy??


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[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]


Edited by trev (05/10/03 12:11 PM)


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: trev]
    #1538191 - 05/11/03 01:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

this isnt meant to be directed at you...but...
...you step on my toes and not say pardon me, I put a knife in your aorta, you hurt my family, I skin you with a cheese grater...you blow up my building, I raise your country to the dirt...if you rise up...I will worship you as you must be the messiah because I killed you and your countrymen long ago....

it simple, we dictate what our leaders do...withhold cash and the wheels slow down, refuse to work and we starve...if any movement is well planned and executed it can work....Louis Farrakahn marched through DC, with an armed militia, the night before he gave a speech at a public highschool with that same armed militia...I saw at least 10 people with 'assault' rifles...they called them selves the nation of islam...they are nothing but a revamped Black Panther party...a gang of thugs

If the Black Orville Reddenbocker can pull the million man march and walk through a city where firearms are prohibited, displaying them proudly with out being arrested.... Why cant a 10 million people that dont want to pay taxes anyway just decide on election day to change the information on the W-4 form and no longer have money that diverted from their pocket and into the coffers of some terrorist org. in DC....yeah..the jackbooted IRS....will they arrest 10 million people, what hapens when they come to sieze property....1/3 of the nations work force will be dead....thats how big they are...the bean counters with guns....

now...lets assume they call out the guard or actives...you think they are going to kill their family and friends....probably not when they discover they arent getting a paycheck anymore, regardless of who dies....

I heard a discription of the word coward...My friends would disagree, I've had a barrel in my face on a couple of occasions, I ran headlong into the situation, I worked as a floor manager at a bar...I'm small, usualy fairly charming, and there is very little I can not handle...I dont have any fear, that doesnt make me brave...it makes me dumb....ask the cops that know me...especialy the ones that have arrested me....they would have no choice but to kill me if I ever resist arrest...
I stopped a fight between 3 hispanics in my bar...no one else would get involved, including 2 cops....my 130# ass removed all 3 and when word got around, I had to quit because I dont like violence....it may not seem that way but I dont...I believe in defending myself and in some cases, those around me.... one of the cops still doesnt believe I wasnt in Spec. Ops....he has access to the record...he should know....


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oh...had I been in the shoes of Rachel Corrie...my body would not have been under the tank treads....I would have been in the treeline...or a rooftop...McMillian 50 and 100 rds....I would have been earning my keep...but then again...she was a pascifist...not someone thats just non-violent....pasive get you burried


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1538551 - 05/11/03 05:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Youre a mad fucker #1 who is louis farrakhan???


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: trev]
    #1538627 - 05/11/03 08:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Youre a mad fucker #1 who is louis farrakhan???



He's a major asshole.


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Re: RACHEL CORRIE ****After all Americans Are HEROES****** [Re: trev]
    #1539219 - 05/11/03 04:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Youre a mad fucker #1 who is louis farrakhan???




I'm not mad....not even a little angry...hell...most people cant even upset me...
the thing is, I've been there, many of my friends are from the Middle East, some of them can not get along...they have one thing going for them...tolerance, weather they disagree or not, they still remain friends, they take up for each other and I honestly believe they would die for each other...I'm a little different...I have more loyalty to my friends than you dog does for you....I wont die for them but I would, if it were needed, kill for them to prevent their death... I have learned a long time ago, the people you call friends...they arent...they are just people you know..

I have gone to jail for some of my friends, I have kept us out of jail many times, I have bailed most of them out on atleast one occasion, hired and payed for lawyers, and even financialy supported a couple of them for an extended period.
the one thing I can say about them is, if I ever need anything, regardless of all circumstances..they would drop everything and come to help...they are my brothers...
I would still be a fool to allow myself to be run over by a bulldozer as opposed to killing the driver and anyone that tried to stop me....would you be willing to die for a hopeless cause and people you do not even know?

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