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 k00laid
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 Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page  [Re: nooneman]
#15357809 - 11/11/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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first amendment dude 
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 nooneman
Registered: 04/24/09
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Loc: Utah
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: k00laid]
#15357816 - 11/11/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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k00laid said:
first amendment dude
The first ammendment doesn't cover a LOT of stuff. Examples: threatening people, yelling fire in a theature/crowded building, encouraging violence, and encouraging or aiding the production of a schedule 1 drug.
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k00laid
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: nooneman]
#15357832 - 11/11/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said:
and encouraging or aiding the production of a schedule 1 drug.
:pssssssshhhh:
i never read that, and im pretty sure ive read all the fine print.
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EvilMushroom666
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Registered: 11/18/09
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: nooneman] 1
#15359072 - 11/12/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nooneman: Please get back on topic. If you want to discuss this issue further
please make a post in the Security forums.
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wildernessjunkie
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: EvilMushroom666]
#15360128 - 11/12/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/8677/Hips-Bulk-Tek
"Tie the bag closed, bake at 250° F for 45 min. Allow to cool in the oven until safe to touch. Stick the now cooled oven bag inside another, larger bag, ziplock and let cool to room temp."
"Once fairly well along, (in a sterile environ, such as in front of oven door ala the Captain's Oven Technique) the bag can be opened and a filtered air tube inserted to enhance growth. Instead of spores, one can use mycelial solutions, spent cakes (remove outer surface & use clean core), etc."
" After inoculation, throw several into a black plastic trash-bag to keep out the light & help prevent contams."
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wildernessjunkie
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#15360295 - 11/12/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/11365/Incubation
Theres no content in that link.
http://www.shroomery.org/11199/Premature-Mycelium-culture
 Dude basically re-inoculates jars with LC after initial injection of spores. This is an excellent tek for doubling or tripling your rate of contamination.
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Immortal Corrupter
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Registered: 06/08/11
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#15364067 - 11/13/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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not quite sure if this counts but nonetheless, the links in the mycology section needs one hell of an overhaul http://www.shroomery.org/8689/Mycology dead sites and non sponsor links.
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KoD
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http://www.shroomery.org/8489/How-do-I-harvest-a-mushroom
Twist and pull is no longer recommended, and the use of knives to cut cleanly at the base is.
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TranscendingLife
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Registered: 06/09/10
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: KoD]
#15369314 - 11/14/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just the line about contamination and/or molding is wrong.
Many users still twist and pull.
I just harvested a monotub this morning via twist+pull.
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blackout
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: TranscendingLife]
#15375327 - 11/15/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do not like the fractional sterilization teks about.
http://www.shroomery.org/5248/What-is-fractional-sterilization-or-tyndallization
fractional sterilization certainly works but if you follow that tek you can expect failure.
The main problem is any teks I have seen are copied from textbooks. So many only list "steam for 30mins". While really it should spell out that it is supposed to be 30mins @ 100C, i.e. you have to wait a LONG LONG time for the core to get to 100C. If you look at textbooks the sterilization times at 15psi are far shorter than what people use at home, yet people readily accept the longer times in teks here. Very few practise fractional sterilization and I expect they are put off by early failures. If they followed textbook times with 15psi they might also give up. I have a textbook which says a 2000ml flask of liquid should be at 15psi for 30-35mins, and a 9000ml serum bottle should be 50-55 mins.
I have seen heinz beans being sterilized on discovery channel, they were at 121C for 3mins, now imagine if people were getting a PC to 15psi for 3mins and then complained they got contams -they would be laughed out of the place, and so should people doing fractional sterilization for such short times that they are probably some grains never at 100C in the jar for even a second.
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PinsWellWithOthers
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: blackout]
#15395424 - 11/19/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dirk_Diggler
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Registered: 10/13/11
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http://www.shroomery.org/5282/How-can-I-tell-bruising-from-mold
Says that by checking suspected contamination with a qtip and if it rubs off on it then its not mold.
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Kizzle
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Dirk_Diggler]
#15395853 - 11/19/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dirk_Diggler said:
http://www.shroomery.org/5282/How-can-I-tell-bruising-from-mold
Says that by checking suspected contamination with a qtip and if it rubs off on it then its not mold.
I posted that one already but it still there so I was actually doing that myself early on mostly to reassure myself that what I was seeing what just bruising. I didn't realize bruising could rub off. Actually I have never seen bruising rub off personally, though I haven't tried this many times.
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Dirk_Diggler
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Kizzle]
#15396019 - 11/20/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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So did I...I thought everything was fine because nothing was coming off on the qtip...but now...I don't know. Time will tell...
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My idea was, you know, I just want a name...I want it so it can cut glass, you know? Like, razor sharp. When I close my eyes, I see this thing...it's like this big sign...and the name is in, like, bright blue neon lights with, like, purple outline...and this name is just so bright and so sharp that the sign, it just blows up because the name is just so powerful...it says:
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PinsWellWithOthers
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: Dirk_Diggler]
#15396056 - 11/20/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wouldn't it be best to design a few collective tek that is vigorously examined by the trusted cultivators and people of knowledgeable experience as something that works 99.99% of the time when followed to a T and publish those as facts rather then sorting threw all this mess?
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EvilMushroom666
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Registered: 11/18/09
Posts: 10,289
Loc: Canada
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We are currently waiting for Ythan to implement the new server so that
we can overhaul and re-do the main page. This would more then likely
involve removing 90% of the current teks and then adding proven teks and
methods. This may be a while from what I gather talking to Ythan.
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ambargh
Registered: 08/15/09
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: EvilMushroom666]
#15398455 - 11/20/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
EvilMushroom666 said:
We are currently waiting for Ythan to implement the new server so that
we can overhaul and re-do the main page.
Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Shroomery App for your phone? I don't think apple would go for that though...
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CH HELL
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: ambargh]
#15398566 - 11/20/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
ambargh said:
Quote:
EvilMushroom666 said:
We are currently waiting for Ythan to implement the new server so that
we can overhaul and re-do the main page.
Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a Shroomery App for your phone? I don't think apple would go for that though...
I can get on the shroomery with my andriod.
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ambargh
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: CH HELL]
#15398703 - 11/20/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can get on it with my iPhone, but it's not a mobile site, it's a full site- I'm always having to zoom in to read everything and it's kinda annoying. But it works.
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Dudester67
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Re: Outdated, Incorrect and Bad Info On Main Page [Re: ambargh]
#15406023 - 11/22/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys... so a few months ago I supported this very idea of reviewing or revamping the "Grow Mushrooms" section of this site due to a noticeable amount of people following obsolete or downright silly teks of yesteryear. But now that I'm starting to see this process in action I'm becoming concerned.
In recent years I've noticed a trend of narrowing views regarding which techniques are "acceptable" and I'm beginning to fear our collective decent into some weird kind of cultivation totalitarianism. While it's true that some of these old teks are pure shit and surely must go, there are others that still contain some valuable information mixed with poor advice- as is true of many threads and personal journals that are posted on these forums daily.
So my hope is that this won't turn into an all-out book burning, with the "modern-day noobs" destroying all the work of the "turn-of-the-century noobs." Personally, I'd prefer that some of the older information at least be archived and remain available, because some of it is still useful as a reference and helps to show how our hobby has evolved to where it now is.
 < wow I just popped my tacky "2-cents-icon" cherry.
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