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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15467432 - 12/04/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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underfliptown said: He shouldnt be in prison to begin with.
If you watch his interviews he is quite convincing. He seems like a cool guy who just got caught up in the governments bullshit and used as an "example" for what the possible dangers of the counterculture movement could represent. He was and is just a tool used by the government to put down a movement.
Its pretty crazy though to think he was trippin the whole time all of this happened lol.
Ugh. God damn hippies and their manson didn't orchestrate murder ridiculousness.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown] 1
#15469607 - 12/05/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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underfliptown said: He shouldnt be in prison to begin with.
If you watch his interviews he is quite convincing. He seems like a cool guy who just got caught up in the governments bullshit and used as an "example" for what the possible dangers of the counterculture movement could represent. He was and is just a tool used by the government to put down a movement.
Its pretty crazy though to think he was trippin the whole time all of this happened lol.
You would change your mind instantly if Charles Manson told them to kill someone in your family. For some people, they never really can understand murder, untill it happens to them. Charles Manson is where he belongs. In custody.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: Capers]
#15469644 - 12/05/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah, fuck Manson. He totally fucked up the validity of the psychedelic movement in the 60's because he was affiliated with the "counter culture" and took LSD, and because of that propaganda spewing idiots were saying that taking LSD can lead to murdering people because of Manson.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#15469832 - 12/05/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Manson was a beatnik not a hippie. And have any of you guys actually seen his interviews?
The government has done far worse than set people up to destroy a movement.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15469869 - 12/05/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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underfliptown said: Manson was a beatnik not a hippie. And have any of you guys actually seen his interviews?
The government has done far worse than set people up to destroy a movement.
Look up the show "Manson" that aired on the History Channel. It might be on YouTube. Watch that, he brainwashed his "followers" and got them to commit the murders.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#15469913 - 12/05/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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PsilocybinMike said:
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underfliptown said: Manson was a beatnik not a hippie. And have any of you guys actually seen his interviews?
The government has done far worse than set people up to destroy a movement.
Look up the show "Manson" that aired on the History Channel. It might be on YouTube. Watch that, he brainwashed his "followers" and got them to commit the murders.
I dunno man. Apparently he never told them to do shit, they just did it. He was pissed when they told him they murdered for him. He had just gotten out of prison and hated that they gave the gvmt a reason to put him back in the clank.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15470148 - 12/05/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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underfliptown said:
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PsilocybinMike said:
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underfliptown said: Manson was a beatnik not a hippie. And have any of you guys actually seen his interviews?
The government has done far worse than set people up to destroy a movement.
Look up the show "Manson" that aired on the History Channel. It might be on YouTube. Watch that, he brainwashed his "followers" and got them to commit the murders.
I dunno man. Apparently he never told them to do shit, they just did it. He was pissed when they told him they murdered for him. He had just gotten out of prison and hated that they gave the gvmt a reason to put him back in the clank.
Watch that show I reffered to that was aired on The History Channel. Manson literally gave 1 of his male and 2 of his female "followers" speed and ordered them to go out and commit the tate murders. One of the girls who was involved in the murders is interviewed in the show and recounts the whole experience.
Also, he used to dose all them with sugar cubes laced with LSD, and he'd deliberately take a smaller dose so he could manipulate them and brainwash them while they were vulnerable in a tripped out state.
It was a cool show, watch it.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15470780 - 12/05/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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ShiVersblood said: You would change your mind instantly if Charles Manson told them to kill someone in your family. For some people, they never really can understand murder, untill it happens to them.
Amen! Exactly. Let's see how much sympathy he has when it's his family who get brutally murdered in their homes.
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underfliptown said: Manson was a beatnik not a hippie. And have any of you guys actually seen his interviews?
Who gives a fuck what Manson says? He's a first class con-man. And the (good) point that PsilocybinMike was making is that the perception of the public was that it was a group of murdering hippies, which actually they were, despite whatever Manson wants to call himself. America was already afraid of LSD. The Manson case just confirmed all of their worst fears. That these normal kids could take LSD start murdering people. Which is exactly what happened.
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underfliptown said: I dunno man. Apparently he never told them to do shit, they just did it. He was pissed when they told him they murdered for him. He had just gotten out of prison and hated that they gave the gvmt a reason to put him back in the clank.
Again, why in the living hell would you believe what Manson says? Especially since everyone else involved with the crimes all had the same story. That nothing was done in that family without the expressed permission of Manson and that he ordered them to kill those people.
And by the way, at the very least, he's guilty of being accessory to the home invasion murder of the LaBiancas. Manson held those poor people at gunpoint while Tex tied them up after Manson had driven the killers there. Then his coward ass drove off while his minions brutally murdered Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: Learyfan]
#15471643 - 12/05/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Manson basically went insane after the dude from The Beach Boys didn't end up getting him a record deal. He was 100% convinced he was getting a record deal and when he didn't get it he lost his mind.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#15471684 - 12/05/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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PsilocybinMike said: Manson basically went insane after the dude from The Beach Boys didn't end up getting him a record deal. He was 100% convinced he was getting a record deal and when he didn't get it he lost his mind.
he still released a decent album though.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15471712 - 12/05/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15471733 - 12/05/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15475179 - 12/06/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never bothered listening to his music before, but thats actually pretty cool.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: shadowplay]
#15475207 - 12/06/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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He has basically said that if he gets out he will kill people. I don't think he actually will, but still...
Also, his interviews are very entertaining.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: The_Aviator] 1
#15491884 - 12/09/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay, there's a lot of misinformation out there regarding Manson- probably in large part to the fact that Manson wants there to be misinformation. Also, there are way better sources of Manson's direct personal views than youtube interviews.
Manson did not kill anyone, nor did he order the murder of those people. From what I remember of my research, Tex Watson was a drug dealer who was continually being fucked over. The "Manson Family" already had strong ties to those "victims" in Hollywood including the Folgers coffee dynasty. They've had many a drug-induced orgy, it's fucking Hollywood. It's a really intriguing story and I recommend it to everyone. Anyway, the murders were more likely drug deals gone terribly wrong.
The Spahn ranch the "Manson Family" resided in was mainly comprised of potheads until Tex Watson arrived and introduced LSD and speed- not a good combination.
However, Manson has made it clear that he wants to stay in prison. So yea, I believe he would kill or make a big hoo-haa just to go back- kinda out of spite of everything that's happened to him.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: Forest_Gospel]
#15492342 - 12/09/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Victims" 
Your account of the situation is completely wrong. I don't even know where to start.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: Learyfan] 1
#15492708 - 12/09/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Charles manson really is the fucking man!
I genuinely think that he is one of the coolest people that have ever lived. I don't believe he had anything to do with murder.
Manson got shit done, he was a travelling hobo with charisma and musical talent.
Manson FTW!!
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: underfliptown]
#15492769 - 12/09/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're in denial. Everyone except for Squeaky and Sandy will tell you that Manson was controlling and abusive and that he controlled everything that went on and that he did, in fact, order those murders. How can you believe Manson over ALL of the other people who were there?
I know Manson got/gets lots of pussy and respect, which is something that we all want, but he is not someone to idolize. He's a jailhouse conman/murderer. He's the worst of the worst and if YOUR family had been murdered at his command, you'd be singing a different tune.
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: Learyfan]
#15493090 - 12/09/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice guy. Catherine Share talks about Manson almost beating her to death.
Catherine Share talks about when Manson told Clem to kill her if she leaves.
http://youtu.be/Ltp-oFQt4y0?t=3m57s (click the link)
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Re: Should Charles Manson be let out of prison? [Re: Learyfan]
#15504597 - 12/12/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nope..I think not
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