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Re: PhD Mycologist Consultation Fee Question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15296876 - 10/29/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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EvilMushroom666 said:
My advice is to start slow, start small and see what the market is like for
the mushroom you plan on growing.

If you are doing well with your own methods of production why not start
at that point and see what the market is like before mass producing using
someone else's method who will charge you for consultation, setup, and
troubleshooting every time you need something.

Either way you should be negotiating with him, at the end of the day it
does not matter what we think is fair, if he is not willing to drop his
fee he is not willing to drop his fee.

How long have you been growing for? Do you have consistent results? What
is the BE of your methods? What is your cost/vs profit ratio?




:whathesaid: Wise words!

I guess even PhD mycologists have to make a living... but it seems so alien to me that this guy is asking an arm and a leg for info that Shroomerites would readily share FOR FREE.

I suppose investors can only exist where there is patented information and secrets galore :sad:

Either way, I am very interested in how this turns out, definitely wish you luck, and please report back when you're up and running!


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Re: PhD Mycologist Consultation Fee Question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15296877 - 10/29/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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My advice is to star

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Re: PhD Mycologist Consultation Fee Question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15296909 - 10/29/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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EvilMushroom666 said:
My advice is to start slow, start small and see what the market is like for
the mushroom you plan on growing.

If you are doing well with your own methods of production why not start
at that point and see what the market is like before mass producing using
someone else's method who will charge you for consultation, setup, and
troubleshooting every time you need something.

Either way you should be negotiating with him, at the end of the day it
does not matter what we think is fair, if he is not willing to drop his
fee he is not willing to drop his fee.

How long have you been growing for? Do you have consistent results? What
is the BE of your methods? What is your cost/vs profit ratio?




^this. Do the farmers markets and co-ops. Make a market base then explode if the demand is what you expect it to be. 20 stacks is nothing to sneeze at for 99% of the population.

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Re: PhD Mycologist Consultation Fee Question [Re: nycomyco]
    #15297123 - 10/29/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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nycomyco said:

What would you wager a median consultation fee (hourly) we be for a PhD level mycologist in industry?  Duties include demonstration of a unique cultivation protocol, plus setting up a small-scale growing chamber.  Period would likely be 1-2 weeks. 






I can only assume cordyceps.  Morels can be grown, but it's entirely strain related, not parameters.  I guess you have to decide if you can recover the $10K and you're sure the person is not full of shit.  The Ph.D doesn't mean squat if you're growing mushrooms.  Experience does.
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Re: PhD Mycologist Consultation Fee Question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #15297187 - 10/29/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

My thoughts exactly RR.

Lots of interest in those little buggers these days...

OP
What's with the secrecy? If we had more info on your project we could probably give you more help.

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Re: PhD Mycologist Consultation Fee Question [Re: nycomyco]
    #15297367 - 10/29/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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nycomyco said:
This isn't an ideal forum for this question, but it seemed the most appropriate place to ask:

What would you wager a median consultation fee (hourly) we be for a PhD level mycologist in industry?  Duties include demonstration of a unique cultivation protocol, plus setting up a small-scale growing chamber.  Period would likely be 1-2 weeks. 

There are already threads on salary, I'm just interested in consultation fee.

Thanks!





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Re: PhD Mycologist Consultation Fee Question [Re: ely2121]
    #15299071 - 10/30/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Haha, thanks everybody. 

For the method we're negotiating for, the BE is supposedly 25-30%. 

For my method, it's hard to say because I was testing it outdoors and only had one flush.  The BE will definitely be lower than 30% but the substrate is dirt cheap. 

As for cost/profit, this is something we'll have to determine when we try out his protocol.  He can't divulge much about the nature of the substrate until we have a contract, but I'm guessing that most of the cost will be labor and not materials.

For my method, I once figured out a VERY tentative, but conservative estimate for cost/profit.  What I figured out was the cost of obtaining substrate, labor, environmental control- basically everything except the space itself and equipment- was around $4/square foot per year.  And I speculated conservatively that we would obtain about 2 lbs.  mushrooms per sq. ft. per year.  This could be way off, but the margin is pretty safe.

We'll be making a decision soon about the consulting fee, and I'll let you know what's up.  Thanks for all the feedback, and again sorry I'm not giving away details yet.

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