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Offlinejimsuzo
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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Rono]
    #1530126 - 05/08/03 06:39 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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....it just shows that Bush is a liar...




...or an idiot. My guess is both a liar and an idiot.


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Rono]
    #1530480 - 05/08/03 10:52 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

makes me wanna puke down a chimney


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1530600 - 05/08/03 11:47 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Disgusting! :mad:  I think sanctions should be instilled on america to keep them from pre-emptively attacking countries with "capabilites" to produce WMD....which, believe it or not, could include canada. 






I guess every other nation could use their military power to setup a blockage of American ports, and restrict their goods from coming here.  Of course, we would turn those ships into sites where I'd be SCUBA diving in a few years, and if America cut off it's cash flow ot the rest of the world, more people would starve to death.  I think that America is a very self-sufficient country.  Sanctions against us.. lol... would britain use their singular aircraft carrier to enforce them?
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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Demon]
    #1531081 - 05/08/03 02:12 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

The Republicans are not the only crooks, Democrats arn't that great either.


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1531415 - 05/08/03 03:45 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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[  I think that America is a very self-sufficient country. 




:grin: Ah shit!  You crack me up! :grin:


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1531423 - 05/08/03 03:48 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I think that the US should stop sending any money to any other nation, then we'll see how quickly their opinions of us change :smile: Actually, they'l lstill hate us, but it'll be fun to watch them fall into shambles and beg us for more money  Hah! Starvign people! Whats funnier than that! hahaha

jr


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1531426 - 05/08/03 03:48 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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I think that America is a very self-sufficient country


That statement alone shows your level of knowledge regarding your own country. Canada arguably has considerably more Natural resources than the U.S. and even we are far from being self sufficient.


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1531435 - 05/08/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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I think that the US should stop sending any money to any other nation, then we'll see how quickly their opinions of us change Actually, they'l lstill hate us, but it'll be fun to watch them fall into shambles and beg us for more money Hah! Starvign people! Whats funnier than that! hahaha



You are aware of the fact that the U.S. owes more money than any other country in the world aren't you? How long do you suppose that your artificial economy will last?


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: JohnnyRespect]
    #1531437 - 05/08/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Your right sorry.  America would prosper tenfold what it is now by closing off all thier borders.  Your so self sufficient that if you didnt have to hand out money to all us other weak coutries, you could live like kings!

Dont be so nieve, or we'll get i fart blu to tell ya all about americas economy being self sufficient... :smirk:


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1531468 - 05/08/03 04:00 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

What do you Americans think you give other countries money for? You buy things with that money. You cant eat money or build houses with it.


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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: ]
    #1536060 - 05/09/03 11:25 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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i saw this story in the news forum, and i was gonna cut and paste it to here, but i thought the story was kinda weak. if 'senior' officials came out with something like this, i think there'd be more papers covering it than the 'sunday herald' or whatever it is. or are they not because it's all propaganda?




have you ever heard of the 'good ol' boy round up' ....most people havent, but it was actualy a pretty big event with some racial overtones, for some reason anything that portrays Government as a bag guy just seems to go away

From the firm of...
This is not in a doj search
Scroll to the Bottom
These guys live a few miles from me...it's what you didnt hear about
Whites only?
Look under Show Time

About the orginization...GM...
from SPLC and Morris Dees
From The DOJ
Victims Restitution Fund? For What?
This is kinda funny...until you learn about VSA

it's kinda odd....for some reason I cant find any information about the armed standoff that the Gadsden Militia had with the FBI over the video tape, there is a brief mention in one of the articles above but other than that...nothing...
The standoff lasted a couple weeks, it was because they wouldnt surender a video tape for 'authentication'. The militia prefered to have an independant in atlanta verify it's legitimacy, it was proven to be real later, anyway the standoff ended when the FBI backed down.... there was a breif mention on the news about an armed militia standoff (fox news) and there was a total of 20 minutes aired about the 'roundup' held by the BATF...was anyone ever actualy disciplined, ask Lon Horiuchi...an FBI killer that walks free, doesnt have to testify in senate subcommitee hearing...unlike the president, snipers aparently dont have to show up...everyone else does!

old news...masacres, bombings and other fun stuff

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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1536699 - 05/10/03 09:21 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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[corny voiceover] Where dick cheesy gets enough lube from the oilfeilds to arse fuck the entire world.  :grin:


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[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]

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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: Rono]
    #1536817 - 05/10/03 10:50 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

That all depends on how you lok at it. You need to be more specific. Dept owed to whom? Total or per capita? What about money owed to the US?

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 10 May 2003 at 03:03:52 PM GMT is:

$6,478,850,260,699.39

The estimated population of the United States is 290,932,225
so each citizen's share of this debt is $22,269.28.

By camparison, as of this morning Canadas debpt per person is c$28,277. At yesterdays exchange rate at noon that = 20,303.73 US dollars. So the US per capita owes about .09 more than Canada. Not bad considering Canada has enjoyed the protection of the US and has not had to finance a millitary.

So who does the US owe?
In '98


Most debt was owed to itself and 22.7% was owed to foreign and international.

C?dric Tille, an economist in the Federal Reserve Bank of NY?s International Research Function, suggests that a third of the sharp increase in the U.S. foreign debt from the end of 1999 through 2001 can be traced to exchange rate movements?specifically, the impact of a rising dollar on the value of U.S. gross assets. Tille?s contention that a simple valuation effect has played a sizable role in the recent acceleration in net debt suggests that the country?s financial position with the rest of the world may be less worrisome than it appears.

The author begins his analysis by describing how the U.S. net debt is calculated. At the end of 2001, foreign investors owned $9.2 trillion of U.S. assets, including stock and bond holdings, ownership shares of business enterprises, and claims on U.S. banks. U.S. investors, by contrast, owned a more modest $6.9 trillion worth of the equivalent foreign assets. The difference in value between U.S. holdings of foreign assets (officially termed U.S. gross assets) and foreign holdings of U.S. assets (U.S. gross liabilities)?$2.3 trillion?is a measure of the U.S. net debt to the rest of the world, or the U.S. net international investment position.

U.S. net debt, Tille explains, increased throughout the 1990s, particularly in the second half of the decade. The most rapid increase, however, occurred between the end of 1999 and the end of 2001. In these two years, the country?s net foreign debt more than doubled.

To determine how this deterioration came about, Tille quantifies the effects of financial flows and valuation changes on the U.S. gross and net positions. Financial flows capture the new borrowing undertaken by the United States to finance its current account deficit; valuation changes?fluctuations in asset prices or exchange rate shifts?reflect the rise or fall in the value of the existing stock of assets and liabilities.

As Tille observes, the relative importance of each of these mechanisms in determining the U.S. net investment position helps us to assess the magnitude of the debt problem. A debt buildup that results from persistent current account deficits is indeed troubling because it can only be reversed through cutbacks in investment and spending that will slow the country?s growth. However, a debt increase that stems from valuation changes is less worrisome, because offsetting movements in asset prices or exchange rates can quickly reduce the country?s net obligations and improve the U.S. investment position.

Tille?s research shows reveals that while financial flows were the primary mechanism driving the deterioration of the country?s net international investment position in the 1990-2001 period, valuation changes contributed significantly to the decline in this position from the end of 1999 through 2001. Falling asset prices accounted for a small part of the decline after 1999, but the impact of the exchange rate was substantial. The appreciation of the dollar, which averaged 6.8 percent per year from the end of 1999 through 2001, markedly reduced the value of U.S. gross assets?that is, foreign assets held by U.S. investors. At the same time, it did little to lessen U.S. gross liabilities?U.S. assets held by foreign investors?which are largely denominated in dollars and thus insulated from changes in the dollar?s value. Overall, the strengthening of the dollar accounted for 30 percent of the deterioration in the U.S. net international investment position from the end of 1999 through 2001.

"If one-third of the 1999-2001 acceleration" in foreign debt "reflects what is essentially an accounting effect from the strong dollar," Tille concludes, "the rapid increase in the U.S. net foreign debt may be a somewhat less formidable problem than is often assumed." Moreover, the author notes, the fact that the valuation mechanism can operate in reverse suggests that the country?s net investment position may improve: the dollar depreciation that began in 2002 may well reduce the country?s foreign debt going forward.

Source Federal Reserve Bank of NY, Linda Ricci


The point is that while our debt may be higher so is our growth and GDP. There are hundreds of factors that you fail to consider when making general statements like that. That is not to say that paying down debt is not a good thing imo.

Consider trade deficits aswell
Trade Deficit Reflects Strength of U.S. Economy On December 16, the Census Bureau reported the largest monthly trade deficit in U.S. history: $25.9 billion in October. For the first 10 months of 1999, the U.S. ran a deficit of $218.4 billion (see figure). So unless there is a miraculous turnaround in the numbers for November and December, the nation will have its largest annual trade deficit in history in 1999.

Robert Z. Lawrence of the Council of Economic Advisers said that the trade deficit was more a reflection of the strength of the U.S. economy than one of weakness. Two recent articles by Federal Reserve economists explain why.

W. Michael Cox and Richard Alm of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas explain, "The U.S. economy has grown stronger with big trade deficits because they reflect one of our economy's greatest strengths -- its attractiveness to the world's investors."

The flip side to the trade deficit is the large surplus the U.S. runs in its capital account, which measures investment flows in and out of the country. This surplus indicates the world's investors find the U.S. has a far more attractive business climate than any other major country; thus they believe they will earn more on an investment here than in Europe, Canada or Japan.

Writing in the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis's economic review, economist Michael Pakko says, "...rising trade and current account deficits are consistent with the notion that strong investment spending is associated with the adoption of new technologies, with the anticipation of rapid economic growth in the future suppressing domestic saving."

The inflow of foreign investment is both a sign of the economy's strength and a contributor to it. The trade deficit is simply a statistical corollary. At least for now, it is nothing to worry about.

Source: Bruce Bartlett, senior fellow, National Center for Policy Analysis, December 27, 1999.



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Re: US: 'Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction' [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1536838 - 05/10/03 11:15 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

rotfalmao .........................Operation Iraqi Liberation(O.I.L.)
It appears to me as if Sadaam did use his weapon of mass destruction.He used our own paranoia to destroy American freedom.Who won this round?Sadaam is gone with a billion dollars.Osama is forgotten.We are the worlds largest assholes in huge debt.And the whole thing exposed how corrupt our entire system has become.Again I say WHO WON? WR


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