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silversoul7
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Re: Why is it that the extremists are always so well prepared? [Re: EchoVortex]
#1532416 - 05/08/03 09:26 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanx a million! This is like the holy grail for me!
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Re: Why is it that the extremists are always so well prepared? [Re: EchoVortex]
#1532427 - 05/08/03 09:34 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, thanks. good link.
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Phred
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Re: Why is it that the extremists are always so well prepare [Re: EchoVortex]
#1532434 - 05/08/03 09:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.helsinki.fi/~ssyreeni/l-diaries/l-diaries-c-09-01
This is not the only debunking of that FAQ, but it's one of the more complete ones.
Mike Huben (the author of the FAQ in EchoVortex's link), in his attempts to discredit Libertarian debaters, uses every tactic he accuses the Libertarians of using and more, yet he seems blissfully unaware he is doing so. The author of the above link points out his errors more gently than others have done.
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Re: Why is it that the extremists are always so well prepared? [Re: silversoul7]
#1532465 - 05/08/03 09:49 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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daaaamn!!! why is it that these extremists so well prepared!!!?
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EchoVortex
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Re: Why is it that the extremists are always so well prepare [Re: Phred]
#1534221 - 05/09/03 09:54 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~ssyreeni/l-diaries/l-diaries-c-09-01 This is not the only debunking of that FAQ, but it's one of the more complete ones. Mike Huben (the author of the FAQ in EchoVortex's link), in his attempts to discredit Libertarian debaters, uses every tactic he accuses the Libertarians of using and more, yet he seems blissfully unaware he is doing so. The author of the above link points out his errors more gently than others have done. pinky
Mike Huben's FAQ is basically a quick and nasty guide to counter-rhetoric and therefore suffers from a measure of glibness and oversimplification. That's why I linked to the site and not directly to the FAQ. The site includes a lot more than just the FAQ. It is a virtual clearninghouse of counterarguments to libertarian ideology, many of them at an extremely high level of sophistication. Anybody who is truly interested in understanding the weak foundations of libertarianism would do well to read carefully a few of the dozens of essays and analyses linked there. I should also point out that Huben also at least has the honesty to link to over ten of his own critics, including the exact same link that pinky provided. Any way you slice it, his is a fantastic site.
Edited by EchoVortex (05/09/03 09:58 AM)
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Azmodeus
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Re: Why is it that the extremists are always so well prepared? [Re: CultyVader]
#1534706 - 05/09/03 01:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I mean really? I feel like a complete moron when i try and argue my point of view against pinksharkmark. I imagine age plays a big factor Mushmaster makes me uncomfortable but there are holes in his arguments.
lol! The only extremist in this forum is arablobster
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Edited by Azmodeus (05/09/03 01:06 PM)
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