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Offlineamberella1989
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Early Pinning
    #15239731 - 10/17/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I had a problem with early pinning, so this time i added more spawn(WBS)to substrate(CC). Now, the pinning has happened even earlier- id say less than 50% colonized. I havent been giving any FAE. What gives?


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: amberella1989]
    #15240207 - 10/17/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Very early pinning is sometimes caused by bacterial contam, that's about all I can think of:shrug:


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: BargainBab]
    #15248371 - 10/19/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

arg. wouldnt i see some other sign of the contam though?


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: amberella1989]
    #15248470 - 10/19/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Now, the pinning has happened even earlier- id say less than 50% colonized.




contam.

care to give more specifics.

what are you spawning to


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: k00laid]
    #15248481 - 10/19/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

fuuuuck. i spawned WBS to CC- coonut coir, which i pastuerized.
so if this is a contam, does that mean that the fruits i do get arent safe?


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: amberella1989]
    #15248604 - 10/19/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

fruits from contaminated substrates are fine to eat.

you will be drying them or boiling them in tea, correct?

both methods kill bacteria.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: k00laid]
    #15248625 - 10/19/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well thats good to know. now i have to figure out HOW THE FUCK I GOT CONTAM!?!?!?!?!?! grrrrrr.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: amberella1989]
    #15248628 - 10/19/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

got pics?


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: k00laid]
    #15248646 - 10/19/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

not now, but i can take some tonight. im at work atm. the only thing i can think of is maybe its cotton mold or whatever that stuffs called. my tray looks mostly brown, with some finegrs of myc hanging out, some fluffy white stuff (which i thought was myc and not cottonmold) and lots of hyphal(sp?) knots and pins.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: k00laid]
    #15248660 - 10/19/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

pics of the spawn jars would be cool too.

hopefully we can get this sorted out for ya.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: k00laid]
    #15248696 - 10/19/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well i didnt take any pics of those, but they seemed fine, smelled right, looked right (to me anyways). the spawn jars were of course sterilized, and inoculated with MS syringes. i used the plastic jars that you get when you buy pre sterilized BRF ones.

i wanna get this sorted out too!
ive never had contam before :frown:
is it possibly a temp problem? temperatures have dropped here in the last week and made my room/closet much colder than normal


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: k00laid]
    #15248729 - 10/19/11 06:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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fruits from contaminated substrates are fine to eat.

you will be drying them or boiling them in tea, correct?

both methods kill bacteria.




That is sooooo not good advice. Drying your shrooms will do nothing to kill some harmful contams. Do you know what kind of contam it even is? Please dont eat contaminated shrooms. It isnt worth the risk. It dosnt mean they are bad and some contams wouldnt be so bad but IMO, I would never want to go trippin and find out during the hieght of the trip  that the contam that was on it is fucking me up. I like my trips to be nice and crisp and clean.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: shroomerite]
    #15248734 - 10/19/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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shroomerite said:
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k00laid said:
fruits from contaminated substrates are fine to eat.

you will be drying them or boiling them in tea, correct?

both methods kill bacteria.




That is sooooo not good advice. Drying your shrooms will do nothing to kill some harmful contams. Do you know what kind of contam it even is? Please dont eat contaminated shrooms. It isnt worth the risk.



i dont even know if they are contamed at all. not for sure anyways.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: amberella1989]
    #15248737 - 10/19/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

fuck now im worried


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: amberella1989]
    #15248764 - 10/19/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If its a mold contamination the shrooms are 100% safe to eat. ive read this countless times and have eaten shrooms from substrate with trich and have had zero ill effects. Mushrooms are not like plants as they do not absorb anything other than what they need to grow. bacterial contams i have had no dealings with so i will leave that one for the more experienced. good luck bro

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Re: Early Pinning [Re: amberella1989]
    #15248772 - 10/19/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This is what I would do....

Continue to fruit and harvest and dry the fruits but keep them labeled. Watch your casing for sure signs of contams. If nothing shows up in the next week you might be ok. The problem is without the substrate being 100% it is good chance you will get a contam. The million dollar question is if the ones you pick now are really contamed.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: shroomerite]
    #15248786 - 10/19/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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shroomerite said:
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k00laid said:
fruits from contaminated substrates are fine to eat.

you will be drying them or boiling them in tea, correct?

both methods kill bacteria.




That is sooooo not good advice. Drying your shrooms will do nothing to kill some harmful contams. Do you know what kind of contam it even is? Please dont eat contaminated shrooms. It isnt worth the risk. It dosnt mean they are bad and some contams wouldnt be so bad but IMO, I would never want to go trippin and find out during the hieght of the trip  that the contam that was on it is fucking me up. I like my trips to be nice and crisp and clean.





-.-

you seem to have no idea wtf you are talking about.

i dont even know how to respond to this post.

bacteria on mushrooms is killed by drying them,

bacteria on mushrooms is also killed by boiling them

mold on a substrate will generally not grow onto the fruits.

if it does you can see it with your eyes.

and you wouldnt eat a moldy piece of bread would you?


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: urbanguru]
    #15248793 - 10/19/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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If its a mold contamination the shrooms are 100% safe to eat. ive read this countless times and have eaten shrooms from substrate with trich and have had zero ill effects. Mushrooms are not like plants as they do not absorb anything other than what they need to grow. bacterial contams i have had no dealings with so i will leave that one for the more experienced. good luck bro




This is not true either. Trich would be the only contam i might even chance, and actually have in my noob days but it is so hard to tell with the countless amounts of contams. But you couldnt pay me enough to eat a shroom that grew out of black mold. Not all molds are safe. Some molds are deadly!!!!!!


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: shroomerite]
    #15248796 - 10/19/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

a shroom WOULDNT grow out of black mold.

so i dont see your point.


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Re: Early Pinning [Re: k00laid]
    #15248797 - 10/19/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

1. Im not a bro
2. i didnt case- ive never done it before, and for some reason havent tried it yet
3.so far, from my pov i havent SEEN any signs of contam- so does that mean its probably bacterial if i cant see it?
4. pics coming in a couple of hours
5. could this possibly be a temp issue? its gotten cold in the last week


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