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Offlineshroomizzy
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Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow
    #1523383 - 05/06/03 12:31 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

is there like a easier grain to go with? this will be my first time with grain. i think i can get millet... if its that stuff on the stick thing there... also for birdseed... whats the stuff i want, does rye do good? are the jars for using grain easy to find also?


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1523403 - 05/06/03 12:44 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

WBS is cheap, easy & forgiving. Get the biggest cheapest bag of generic millet based WBS & go from there. My foaf's very 1st grow was 4 PF cakes. His next grow was WBS spawn to bulk & cased substrates. He never went back to cakes. Never even thought about it.

There are a few more steps & pitfalls in grain spawn to bulk substrate & casing. But, all the tricks, bells & whistles, as well as help you need, is right here.

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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: SixTango]
    #1523604 - 05/06/03 02:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I like how that sounds. WBS is what?


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1523616 - 05/06/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

WBS=Wild Bird Seed.


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: recalcitrant]
    #1523721 - 05/06/03 04:00 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)


6T WBS Tek (Wild Bird Seed) Bulk Spawn Preparation Method.

WBS consists primarily of white millet. It is often a combination of white, red millet & milo - with a small percentage of sunflower seeds and sometimes tiny amounts of crushed corn. Some expensive brands are coated with a fungicide. For use as spawn material, treated WBS is not advisable.

You can find untreated WBS in 5 -10 & 20 pound bags, at low prices at most large chain grocery stores, or chain type pet supply stores. For instance, PetsMart has 40 pound bags for around $8.

Simply place whatever quantity you intend to use in a plastic pot, tub or bucket. Bear in mind, dry seed will expand about 20 to 25% - after it absorbs its capacity of water. Add tap water & soak the seed overnight. A 8 to 12 hour soak is fine. Seed soaked longer will begin to ferment. But, is still usable after soaking 24 to 36 hours.

There is no need to remove any floating husks, or sunflower seeds. These add lignin ( a good thing) & do not harbor any more possible contams than does the millet. It is all going to get thoroughly sterilized - anyway.

Once soaked, simply rinse the seed very thoroughly in a colander, or strainer. Then allow it to drain - WELL. As in 30 or more minutes. If it is drips - one drop. It is not drained - WELL.

Load pint or quart jars ? full, apply internal filter disk, material, polyfil or whatever method you use allow gas exchange through a ? or 3/8 inch hole in the lid. Screw lid on tight & back it off ? turn. Place a double layer of paper coffee filters over the lid & jar top, held down by a thick rubber band. Place the jars in the PC.

PC at 15 pounds for a full 60 minutes. 90 minutes is better, if you have the time. Allow the PC pressure to drop to zero & let it cool a bit. Open while still hot & remove jars. The paper coffee filters will dry almost instantly, when the PC is opened. Tighten lids (if necessary), shake jars to insure there are no clumps of seed inside. Place jars inside the oven on a rack, to cool, overnight. External coffee filters simply add another layer of protection to the jars content.

Once cooled to room temperature, store in a clean cardboard box - until used. Using them sooner than later is preferable. Note: This method was done in an All American PC. Some brands with a weighted pressure system require more internal water & it may be advisable to also cover the coffee filters with tin foil- while PC'ing, so no excess boiling water gains entry into the jars. Simply remove the tinfoil when you remove the jars from the PC.

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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: SixTango]
    #1523753 - 05/06/03 04:36 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: Anno]
    #1560688 - 05/19/03 06:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23619




this might be a stupid question, but in that tek it says "ibiczlate" is that just a typo for inoculate?


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: Joker902]
    #1560796 - 05/19/03 06:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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this might be a stupid question, but in that tek it says "ibiczlate" is that just a typo for inoculate?




He meant to say innoculizl, fashizl.

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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: SixTango]
    #1560896 - 05/19/03 07:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

anybody ever substituted WBS for BRF/verm using the PF tek? i'm wondering if you could follow this WBS tek (the soaking and rinsing part) except use half-pint jars w/ the pure verm "barrier layer," use 4 innoc holes and basically use PF tek to the tee. obviously, if you didn't have a pressure cooker, you would have to fractionaly sterilize em and you wouldn't be able to shake em w/ half-pints, but besides this, it sounds like it would work. any thoughts?


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: chineseguy]
    #1561026 - 05/19/03 08:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you could substitute colonised brf/verm for the colonised wbs as spawn to bulk, but otherwise you're confusing the concepts of grain vs. pftek


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: shirley knott]
    #1561208 - 05/19/03 09:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

though, purely grain cakes are possible, just
somewhat ridiculous.


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: afoaf]
    #1561253 - 05/19/03 09:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

im not sure using a pot will sterilize grains thouroughly enough


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Re: Moving on to grains, buy supplies tomorrow [Re: MykeOfile]
    #1561693 - 05/19/03 11:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

>anybody ever substituted WBS for BRF/verm using the PF tek?

Yep.. Differnt than ur idea tho..I ground WBS and Pop corn.50/50 and put that inplace of BRF in the PF tec, i added a pinch more of verm tho.. It grows sooo very fast and aggressive.. its taken over the top verm layer and is growing so full and fast i give it 3 mroe days and we'll have results!!!. I call it the PF-Discombobulatedbalderdash TEC.. That and only that will i call it.


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