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psylosymonreturns
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Registered: 10/16/09
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Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !!
#15222364 - 10/13/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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well check out this monster!! i caught her peeking out of the tall grass so i snapped a quick shot. then i pulled her up and WOW no thats a long friggin stipe!!
so my question is : are they a Panaeolous papilionaceus which i dont think they are, Panaelous subbalteatus, Panaeolous castaneifolius or Panaeolous olivaceus or something else!!?? the stipes were very long,fragile,and reddish with white fibrils. there must have been dung in the grass because there was Stropharia semiglobattas everywhere

then there was these 2 . they were very beautiful and robust. the stipe was strong and almost white. they were hygraphanous , resembling a Pilocybe quite a bit. Pan foe or something else ? i dont think they are foes tho. print is in progress.

then there were these. i thought they looked like a Panaeolopsis species maybe?? or just a Pan pap.
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Byrain


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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#15222442 - 10/13/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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1. Please get a picture of the gills, Panaeolus looks promising, the stem length may be do to the grass length. 2. Maybe something like Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus sp. for sure. 3. Pan pap assuming they were growing with dung.
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: Byrain]
#15222496 - 10/13/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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heres the gills for #1 you can see the black spores.

and P fimicola eh for #2 ? i was kinda thinking P fimicola as well. i took a quick peek, spores are BLACK !! so definetly not a foe.
ya i was thinking maybe P pap as well for #3 . there was lotsa dung present. but with those in turned cap margins, it always gets me excited.
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innerview
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#15222954 - 10/13/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man, looks like everything is bigger in Canada!!! 
VEry cool find there, psylosymonreturns!
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Byrain


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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#15223208 - 10/14/11 01:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: heres the gills for #1 you can see the black spores.

and P fimicola eh for #2 ? i was kinda thinking P fimicola as well. i took a quick peek, spores are BLACK !! so definetly not a foe.
ya i was thinking maybe P pap as well for #3 . there was lotsa dung present. but with those in turned cap margins, it always gets me excited.
1 might be Panaeolus acuminatus, I don't think 2 looks like P. cinctulus, more like the pictures of P. fimicola i have seen. Though microscopy really is needed for 1 & 2.
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: Byrain]
#15223879 - 10/14/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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i was looking at the Pan key at mushroom expert and i think with those long red stems 1 is probablty Panaeolous acuminatus! not active, but i like getting to know these "other" pans that dont get id'd all that often.
and i think your right about 2 aswell. stamets says they look like a Psilocybe, and these really resmeble one!! thanks for taking a look, youve been really helpful lately.
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Ieponumos
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#15224037 - 10/14/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: i was looking at the Pan key at mushroom expert and i think with those long red stems 1 is probablty Panaeolous acuminatus! not active, but i like getting to know these "other" pans that dont get id'd all that often.
and i think your right about 2 aswell. stamets says they look like a Psilocybe, and these really resmeble one!! thanks for taking a look, youve been really helpful lately. 
The third one in the second pic set looks like P. acuminatus. The other two look more interesting. Looking at.the reddish umbo, I say they're more similar to olivaceus than fimicola.
EDIT: I just wanted to also clarify that P. olivaceus and P. castaneifolius are synonyms.
Edited by Ieponumos (10/14/11 08:51 AM)
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avidpicker
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: Ieponumos]
#15224294 - 10/14/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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That first one is a biggun,cool finds psylo
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: avidpicker]
#15226305 - 10/14/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ieponumos said:
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psylosymonreturns said: i was looking at the Pan key at mushroom expert and i think with those long red stems 1 is probablty Panaeolous acuminatus! not active, but i like getting to know these "other" pans that dont get id'd all that often.
and i think your right about 2 aswell. stamets says they look like a Psilocybe, and these really resmeble one!! thanks for taking a look, youve been really helpful lately. 
The third one in the second pic set looks like P. acuminatus. The other two look more interesting. Looking at.the reddish umbo, I say they're more similar to olivaceus than fimicola.
EDIT: I just wanted to also clarify that P. olivaceus and P. castaneifolius are synonyms.
you think olivaceus eh ? i had these 2 pics below id'd by blimey grimey as P olivaceus. and they just dont seem the same. good thing is i have prints of both.   ive found alot of interesting Pans this year. first year ive really payed attention to them. 
 
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avidpicker said: That first one is a biggun,cool finds psylo 
thanks avid!!
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Ieponumos
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#15226348 - 10/14/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said:
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Ieponumos said:
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psylosymonreturns said: i was looking at the Pan key at mushroom expert and i think with those long red stems 1 is probablty Panaeolous acuminatus! not active, but i like getting to know these "other" pans that dont get id'd all that often.
and i think your right about 2 aswell. stamets says they look like a Psilocybe, and these really resmeble one!! thanks for taking a look, youve been really helpful lately. 
The third one in the second pic set looks like P. acuminatus. The other two look more interesting. Looking at.the reddish umbo, I say they're more similar to olivaceus than fimicola.
EDIT: I just wanted to also clarify that P. olivaceus and P. castaneifolius are synonyms.
you think olivaceus eh ? i had these 2 pics below id'd by blimey grimey as P olivaceus. and they just dont seem the same. good thing is i have prints of both.   ive found alot of interesting Pans this year. first year ive really payed attention to them. 
 
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avidpicker said: That first one is a biggun,cool finds psylo 
thanks avid!!
The morphology of Pans can vary, but the pileus looks wrong for fimicola to me. My gut keeps telling me olivaceus.
Anything macroscopic referring to Pans is mainly conjecture, but fimicola/ater often have non-descript colors IME.

(pic is vjp's)
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psylosymonreturns
aka Gym Sporrison



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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: Ieponumos]
#15226383 - 10/14/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh nice find vjp!! those look familiar , i swear ive seen them before.
so does anyone know if or where P fimicola is active? stamets says they are active in some places and not others.
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Ieponumos
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Re: Interesting Panaeolous species!! 10 ince tall one !! [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#15226393 - 10/14/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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psylosymonreturns said: oh nice find vjp!! those look familiar , i swear ive seen them before.
so does anyone know if or where P fimicola is active? stamets says they are active in some places and not others.
I know one way you can find out! Just be sure to save at least one cap for ID purposes.
EDIT: Here's the thread vjp's find was in
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