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P-shroomin



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May I ask what that strain is? It looks promising.
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TaoShroom
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Just wanted to join the ranks of people who support your take on this TEK. It is treating me wonderfully, you did an awesome write up. Whenever I find someone asking questions about where to start I always point them to this thread. Your the man!
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: TaoShroom]
#16051872 - 04/06/12 08:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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trappinmactrapper
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very informative thanks buddy how long do you think it takes to fruit after placeing in the fruiting chamber
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hamloaf
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Generally, up to 2 weeks.
When fruits begin to form once the substrate has been introduced into fruiting conditions depends primarily on the genetics you began with/use. Secondarily, the up keeping up the correct fruiting environment (fresh-air, humidity, lighting and, temperature) in correlation with the parameters of the specie being grown.
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syntax404
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: hamloaf]
#16071294 - 04/10/12 04:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Decided on going with this Tek for my first grow. I'm pretty excited to see how this works out. Going with 10 cakes, it's somewhat ambitious but I'm confident. I have a few questions if anyone can help:
1. I don't have enough spare jar rings to line the bottom of the pot for sterilization. Can I use something else? Or instead can I just take off some of the jar rings of jars being sterilized while keeping the lids on? I don't really understand the purpose of keeping them on during sterilization to be honest. Is it just to keep the lids in place?
2. Can I sterilize my jars and leave them alone for a few days or should I do it immediately before inoculation? My spores should be arriving towards the end of the week and it'd be preferable if I could have the jars ready to go by the time they arrive. I would sterilize them and store them in a closed plastic tote that I've sprayed down with professional grade Lysol until they are ready for inoculation.
3. It definitely looks like the perlite will fall through the 1/4" holes in the bottom of my SGFC. Am I wrong in thinking this?
Thanks OP and everyone else. Can't wait to see how these turn out.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: syntax404]
#16071311 - 04/10/12 05:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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syntax404 said: Decided on going with this Tek for my first grow. I'm pretty excited to see how this works out. Going with 10 cakes, it's somewhat ambitious but I'm confident. I have a few questions if anyone can help:
1. I don't have enough spare jar rings to line the bottom of the pot for sterilization. Can I use something else? Or instead can I just take off some of the jar rings of jars being sterilized while keeping the lids on? I don't really understand the purpose of keeping them on during sterilization to be honest. Is it just to keep the lids in place?
You could always make some crumpled up rings with say tinfoil and use those. Buying some more jars (trust me you will put them to use) is another option, along with just buying some more jar rings. I would not suggest removing the rings from the jars you are sterilizing. Basically you just want to raise your jars up out of the water...I am sure if you get creative you will find a way.
2. Can I sterilize my jars and leave them alone for a few days or should I do it immediately before inoculation? My spores should be arriving towards the end of the week and it'd be preferable if I could have the jars ready to go by the time they arrive. I would sterilize them and store them in a closed plastic tote that I've sprayed down with professional grade Lysol until they are ready for inoculation.
You can always inoculate a few days after making your cakes, but I would suggest personally not making them until all of your materials have arrived. Either way no harm will be done.
3. It definitely looks like the perlite will fall through the 1/4" holes in the bottom of my SGFC. Am I wrong in thinking this?
Unless you are using very fine grade perlite it will not fall through,or if it does only a few chunks. Thanks OP and everyone else. Can't wait to see how these turn out.
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slushie9090

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Javadog
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: slushie9090]
#16072730 - 04/10/12 09:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Should he remove pins also before the second dunk ?
No. The pins left behind after the first flush are part of the second flush.
I have seen where later flushes have less, larger, fruits, but this varies. (PE often has blobs, then fruits)
Good luck,
JD
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syntax404
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EvilMushroom666 said: You could always make some crumpled up rings with say tinfoil and use those. Buying some more jars (trust me you will put them to use) is another option, along with just buying some more jar rings. I would not suggest removing the rings from the jars you are sterilizing. Basically you just want to raise your jars up out of the water...I am sure if you get creative you will find a way.
Thank you, I did just that. I'll buy extra jars (and a PC) if I make a lasting hobby of this, which I feel like I will.
You can always inoculate a few days after making your cakes, but I would suggest personally not making them until all of your materials have arrived. Either way no harm will be done.
Yeah I'm starting to think that might be a good idea.
The biggest pot I own reluctantly fits 5 jars but there is plenty of room to stack more. I should probably do two sterilization runs instead of stacking all 10 jars, right? Also the jars touch the actual sides of the pot because it's kind of cramped. I can fit 4 in comfortably, so if touching the sides and one another is bad I'll have to do 3 runs. I don't think it is but correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks.
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Revolutiontcm
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: syntax404]
#16072865 - 04/10/12 09:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you sterilize the jars too long before innoc isnt it possible that the sub will be too dry?
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Revolutiontcm]
#16074049 - 04/11/12 04:35 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Revolutiontcm said: If you sterilize the jars too long before innoc isnt it possible that the sub will be too dry?
Yes, if you sterilize your jars then wait for weeks at a time there is a chance that your sub will lose moisture. 1 week should not hurt but as I said before I recommend making your jars around the same time you plan on using them.
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TertleMelon
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I can't really seem to find if this ever came up, so here I go; I used an "all natural" sea sponge instead of vermiculite in my BRF cake and everything worked out for me the same. Except, via my reason, the taste of my crop was MUCH cleaner. I blended up my dry sponge into a powder, replaced the vermiculite with it, and followed every other direction. No abnormal contamination or growth times.
Has anyone experimented with vermiculite substitutions in their BRF cakes before?
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Javadog
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: TertleMelon]
#16074339 - 04/11/12 08:08 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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No. Never heard of sponge being used.
This is interesting.
Sponge will neither have the same mineral content, but it seems reasonable that it might retain water well.
Can you post photos of these SpongeBobs?
JD
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TertleMelon
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Javadog]
#16075526 - 04/11/12 01:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'll have to start a new batch to take some pics, but it's gonna happen. What minerals does the vermiculite provide?
Completely seperate, prob won't do it, but while I'm in the experimental section, has anyone tried other flours? I can get anything from almond flour, to white rice flour, to quinoa flour. I understand some of the mineral difference, but just wondering if anyone has tried it.
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TheHydrogenBomb
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: TertleMelon]
#16081803 - 04/12/12 07:08 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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most helpful tek, i cannot contribute to helping others due to the reason that i am a rock at explaining things, BUT i will send every last ape this direction,
just wanted to show my appreciation, thehydrogenbomb
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EvilMushroom666
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TheHydrogenBomb said: most helpful tek, i cannot contribute to helping others due to the reason that i am a rock at explaining things, BUT i will send every last ape this direction,
just wanted to show my appreciation, thehydrogenbomb
Glad to help out brother.
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OptimusPrime
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So I was wondering....
After your cakes are fully colonized and consolidated and ready to dunk and roll, what can you put in the water? I've read and done coffee + gypsum in my cakes already, but would adding one, both or something else to the water help your cakes grow?
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hamloaf
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: OptimusPrime]
#16105449 - 04/18/12 06:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, you will just be adding a layer of nutrients to the surface of the cake(s) for bacterial or, mold bloom to occur. Especially with the coffee. Once cakes are fully consolidated and ready to fruit, just dunk the cakes in plain, room temperature water from the tap.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: hamloaf] 1
#16105618 - 04/18/12 07:50 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: No, you will just be adding a layer of nutrients to the surface of the cake(s) for bacterial or, mold bloom to occur. Especially with the coffee. Once cakes are fully consolidated and ready to fruit, just dunk the cakes in plain, room temperature water from the tap.
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