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growchow
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Jungg] 1
#15393071 - 11/19/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Another thanks to EvilMushroom666. Coming to this site as a newb--it is hard to find concise, current information.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Jungg]
#15393185 - 11/19/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jungg said: Thanks EM. I love your other thread about Canadian resources for myco study - you've done a great job of providing useful info for us newer Canuckleheads, and the community as a whole.
I found a lot of items very tricky to find in Canada hence why I started the thread. If you look hard enough you can find most supplies in country and often locally, but for some items you cannot get away from ordering from the U.S or trading with other members here.
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thank you for this gem. As a person who is very big on researching & obtaining multiple sources of information, I can't thank you enough for putting this together in such a detailed & organized fashion.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: eira]
#15453085 - 12/02/11 04:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why don't you recommend reusing contaminated jars? I know PCing can leave behind small amounts of endospores but the vast majority of the contamination should be dead after being PC'd. I don't see how after cleaning it it would be any different from any other used jar.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kizzle]
#15453109 - 12/02/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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To expand a bit on my statement I should have said that I personally do not re-use contaminated PF jars. The smell of pressure cooking contaminated jars, along with the fact that I only have a large PC leads me to simply toss them out if contaminated. Bringing a 21Qt pc up to pressure for 1-2 pf jars seems a waste. You COULD steam or boil your jars for an hour as an alternative. I have not had a contaminated PF jar grow with oysters and other edibles in over 2 years due to my attention to aseptic technique and procedure keep in mind.
If you have an entire flat (12) jars contaminate by all means re-use them after PCing, but be ready for a nasty smell to evade your home.
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I usually throw them out too but that's just because I'm not going to run out any time soon. I have done it before though and didn't notice any particularly bad smells, though in those instances there were was very little contamination in there to begin with.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kizzle]
#15476095 - 12/06/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is all personal preference really
The last time I PCed contaminated cakes (Long time ago mind you) IT STUNK up my place and the g/f at the time was bitching all night.
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cody07
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When resting between flushes to dry out the cake, do you rest it outside the SGFC in normal room conditions, or do you leave it in the SGFC but prevent it from getting misted?
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hamloaf
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: cody07]
#15546834 - 12/20/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Resting and/or drying out a/the cake(s) between flushes isn't a requirement. Where did you hear/learn/read that from??
After a flush has been harvested, I like to re-dunk the cakes for 3-7 hours then place the cakes right back into the fruiting chamber, ressumming my daily regimen of misting then fanning.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: hamloaf]
#15546916 - 12/20/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I read it in the original post of this thread:
"Second Flush
After the first flush you will need to dunk your cakes again for 18-24 hours to replenish the water in your cakes and allow more mushrooms to grow. It is a good idea to allow your cakes to dry out after the first flush for a few days before dunking for the second flush"
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: cody07]
#15546929 - 12/20/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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RR has also recommended the same thing consistently.
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hamloaf
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: cody07] 1
#15546960 - 12/20/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yup, that's correct. You just answered your own question.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: cody07]
#15547001 - 12/20/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, I didn't. The question was how they're to be dried, not whether or not to dry them.
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hamloaf
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: cody07]
#15547070 - 12/20/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Allow cakes to dehydrate in the fruiting chamber for the few days before re-dunking them.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: hamloaf]
#15547301 - 12/20/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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hamloaf said: Allow cakes to dehydrate in the fruiting chamber for the few days before re-dunking them. 
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Javadog]
#15703612 - 01/22/12 06:57 PM (12 years, 8 days ago) |
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Wish I'd found this thread earlier.
All the stuff I read said to put the tinfoil back on the jars after inoculation.
What's the reason for leaving it off? Air exchange?
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Dominar]
#15703637 - 01/22/12 07:00 PM (12 years, 8 days ago) |
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not air exchange but gas exchange. putting the foil back on prevents your mushies from dispelling the Co2 buildup causeing the jars to stall.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: jimmyjame1]
#15703857 - 01/22/12 07:34 PM (12 years, 8 days ago) |
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