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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: NoIdeaWhatImDoing]
    #19918896 - 04/29/14 09:00 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Quick question. After the Inoculation period it says NOT to put the tinfoil back on the jars.

But the pictures during the germination period do show something covering the tops of the jars and i dont see any mention anywhere about putting anything else over it

But its entirely possible i missed something



nothing over the jars at all except the lid itself, including the filter.
should look somethin like this, excluding the tape i labeled the jars with:


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: MushroomWizard420]
    #19918918 - 04/29/14 09:05 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Oh ok. So It's just tape that you have over it. Thanks!


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: NoIdeaWhatImDoing]
    #19919276 - 04/29/14 10:51 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Bookmarked, you would say that it's necessary to spray them even if it's a constant 100% humidity?



If you're getting a truly sustained humidity, you're fine without spraying. However, for most situations I've seen, a periodic spray is necessary to sustain the level of humidity you need.


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NoIdeaWhatImDoing said:
Quick question. After the Inoculation period it says NOT to put the tinfoil back on the jars.

But the pictures during the germination period do show something covering the tops of the jars and i dont see any mention anywhere about putting anything else over it

But its entirely possible i missed something



If you properly sterilize your jars, you do not need to keep the foil on. The point of the dry vermiculite layer is to filter out anything that would ruin a healthy substrate. if you don't properly sterilize your jars, that extra amount of tin foil will not help you. Leaving the tinfoil on seems to make some people feel better, so if you want to do it, have fun. I personally just use it for my next batch.


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Masticore]
    #19921603 - 04/30/14 12:42 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Psycho Nautic said:
Bookmarked, you would say that it's necessary to spray them even if it's a constant 100% humidity?



If you're getting a truly sustained humidity, you're fine without spraying. However, for most situations I've seen, a periodic spray is necessary to sustain the level of humidity you need.



constant high humidity isn't near as important as allowing the water to evaporate off of the surface of the mushrooms, which is why the mist/fan cycle is far preferable to using a humidifier. RR goes into great detail describing this but i can't find the page right now.

after the dunk and roll the humidity of the cakes is primarily fixed at a proper level, but misting the surface and allowing the surface to then evaporate causes pinning after full colonization. the misting is NOT primarily used to keep RH up, the SGFC should do that just fine until the cakes start to bear fruits. once they start fruiting, however, proper misting helps keep the mushrooms healthy and thriving.


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: MushroomWizard420]
    #19929060 - 05/01/14 09:14 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Masticore said:
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Psycho Nautic said:
Bookmarked, you would say that it's necessary to spray them even if it's a constant 100% humidity?



If you're getting a truly sustained humidity, you're fine without spraying. However, for most situations I've seen, a periodic spray is necessary to sustain the level of humidity you need.



constant high humidity isn't near as important as allowing the water to evaporate off of the surface of the mushrooms, which is why the mist/fan cycle is far preferable to using a humidifier. RR goes into great detail describing this but i can't find the page right now.

after the dunk and roll the humidity of the cakes is primarily fixed at a proper level, but misting the surface and allowing the surface to then evaporate causes pinning after full colonization. the misting is NOT primarily used to keep RH up, the SGFC should do that just fine until the cakes start to bear fruits. once they start fruiting, however, proper misting helps keep the mushrooms healthy and thriving.



Yeah, evaporation is key, and what I said is not exactly true. This is why most pump setups that mist a chamber periodically don't provide a good crop. That's probably the whole reason the SGFC was developed. If you're looking for full automation, a completely different rout would be best. It's not really a good rout for beginners because of the tweaking involved. If you want to put a hut together with a mobile closet or something, that's do-able, but you're probably not using the PFtek at that point for more than anything than grabbing a few mushies for cloning.


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #20401335 - 08/10/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you so much for posting this tek! It is extremely helpful and clarified a lot for me! I just have a question or two.. If i wanted to mix the cakes into this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595 I would just crumble them and disperse them? and how would I flush using this method?

Thank you so much!


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #20418021 - 08/14/14 01:55 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

This is my go to tek. Superb stuff, EM


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: brian-trousers]
    #20452015 - 08/21/14 12:58 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Hey this is an awesome and really user friendly TEK!! I have been looking into gathering some materials, I've found some
100% ISO alcohol spray is this ok to use or is TOO high a percentage compared to
70% ISO alcohol.

I'm guessing if it's to sterilise then it being 100% shouldn't be a problem but just checking...

Thanks :smile:


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Stemhead]
    #20452125 - 08/21/14 01:26 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

70% is what you want.....and alcohol doesn't sterilize anything.....sanitize maybe.


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: PussyFart]
    #20452397 - 08/21/14 03:30 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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70% is what you want.....and alcohol doesn't sterilize anything.....sanitize maybe.




Argh fuck, really?? Any ideas where I can get some? I spose I can just get it online...


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Stemhead]
    #20452409 - 08/21/14 03:34 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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PussyFart said:
70% is what you want.....and alcohol doesn't sterilize anything.....sanitize maybe.




Argh fuck, really?? Any ideas where I can get some? I spose I can just get it online...



Walgreens, walmart, kmart, target, local grocery stores, any pharmacy.....your medicine cabinet.


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: PussyFart]
    #20452450 - 08/21/14 04:01 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Yeh cool, I will take a day out soon and shop around. Cheers


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #20466667 - 08/23/14 09:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

this should be stickyied


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: djd101]
    #20466762 - 08/23/14 09:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

it's a cake tek, put it in your sig of you like it that much:thumbup:, personelly i love this write up but we don't sticky teks


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: cronicr]
    #20505905 - 09/01/14 12:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

One more question.. (For now..) ! When sterilising the jars in the boiling pot it says the lid must be well fitting to prevent the loss of steam. Does this mean you shouldn't use one of the lids with a hole in that let's off steam and if that's the case I'm guessing i could just cover it over.

Sorry to keep asking I just want to be sure I get it right ! Thanks


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Stemhead]
    #20505943 - 09/01/14 12:36 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah there fine, cover it up if possible but he's basicly saying don't use the wrong size lid


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: cronicr]
    #20506529 - 09/01/14 02:50 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Sorted  :chunk:


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Stemhead]
    #20586099 - 09/18/14 10:02 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

What are your professional opinions on the POOR MANS POD fruiting chamber this site (admins) also seems to be promoting? I understand you don't want stagnant water just sitting on the bottom of your SGFC because that would allow contams to fester. Is the bubbling/aeration by the stones enough to keep the water moving and contam growth to a minimum or should I fill the pod with like a 1-5% solution of water/bleach to prevent that? My problem is I work shifts way longer than 10-14 hours sometimes. There are times I might not be home for days so you can understand why a "self-sustaining" fruiting chamber is so appealing to me. It's not that I'm lazy.


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Monkeypositive89]
    #20628734 - 09/28/14 12:27 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

The only BRF tek I follow


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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: motherchimp]
    #20628790 - 09/28/14 12:45 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Nice write up. Ive never done BRF because i've always used WBS or Rye berries. I might try this out to get the experience under my belt


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