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veda_sticks
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Just read through your write up on the pf tek. This should be put on the Teks page or whatever page that has mushroom growing info as its a bit bare at the moment.
Hopefully new members will find this instead of some of the older outdated teks that still seem to be floating around
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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Kakarot
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: veda_sticks]
#18383020 - 06/07/13 12:43 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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One question: What if i were to leave the foil on and not poke holes in the lids. Take lid off poke needle through foil then replace the lid? Will this affect anything?
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Javadog
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kakarot]
#18384285 - 06/07/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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You want the tops of the jars to dry fully, and for the verm layer to do the job of protecting the substrate.
Take off the foil.
Good luck,
JD
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Kakarot
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Javadog]
#18387518 - 06/08/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I heard that the c02 can possibly make it grow faster, I have gotten a lot of back and forth some saying on some saying off. I just want to clear it up
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Kakarot
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kakarot]
#18387538 - 06/08/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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What does this black look like to you guys?
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Kizzle
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kakarot]
#18387640 - 06/08/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kakarot said: I heard that the c02 can possibly make it grow faster, I have gotten a lot of back and forth some saying on some saying off. I just want to clear it up
CO2 slows down growth. It's good to have some buildup though in colonizing substrates to prevent pinning before the entire substrate is ready to fruit.
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Kakarot
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kizzle]
#18387878 - 06/08/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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So its okay to leave the lids on? Dont want to open them up and let contams in
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PussyFart
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kakarot]
#18388260 - 06/08/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: CO2 slows down growth.
Not really.
You want very high co2 for colonization.
Monotubs are usually in the 10,000 to 20,000 ppm range when colonizing, and go down to less than 2000 ppm for fruiting.
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Kakarot said: So its okay to leave the lids on? Dont want to open them up and let contams in
Fully colonized spawn, and pasteurized bulk substrate are contam resistant.
And if they were spawned in open air, chances are there are already contams in the tub.
Yes, leave the lids on until full colonization.
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veda_sticks
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: PussyFart]
#18388297 - 06/08/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said:
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Kizzle said: CO2 slows down growth.
Not really.
You want very high co2 for colonization.
Monotubs are usually in the 10,000 to 20,000 ppm range when colonizing, and go down to less than 2000 ppm for fruiting.
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Kakarot said: So its okay to leave the lids on? Dont want to open them up and let contams in
Fully colonized spawn, and pasteurized bulk substrate are contam resistant.
And if they were spawned in open air, chances are there are already contams in the tub.
Yes, leave the lids on until full colonization.
Leave the lids on, as gas excahnge is all that is required, the inoc holes are plenty for gas exchange.
But while were on the subject of taking lids of (i dont recomend doing this though) but with a pf cake that has the dry verm filter you could take the lid off and put it back on without it contaminating.
again I DO NOT RECOMEND IT. Just for information. I wouldnt open a jar just incase. disturb that dry verm layer and it could be a disaster.
anyway...
as said co2 is benificial during colinisation but there is a point where it becomes a problem lack of gas exchange will slow down colinisation and even slow it.
Having FAE in jars would likely dry out the substrate
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: veda_sticks]
#18391629 - 06/09/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also there are no holes in my lids, and did you see the pic?
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Kizzle
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kakarot]
#18393763 - 06/09/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Kizzle said: CO2 slows down growth.
Not really.
You want very high co2 for colonization.
Monotubs are usually in the 10,000 to 20,000 ppm range when colonizing, and go down to less than 2000 ppm for fruiting.
But I've never seen anything to suggest the higher CO2 levels actually increase the speed of colonization. As far as I can tell decreasing gas exchange to a colonizing substrate has the direct effect of slowing colonization to some degree with very high CO2 levels stalling growth completely.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Kizzle]
#18394528 - 06/09/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Higher CO2 does stimulate colonization.
Lowering CO2 is a fruiting trigger.
Take care,
JD
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Javadog]
#18448597 - 06/20/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm a little confused about drying out my cakes after the first flush. Does that mean I should move them out of my fruiting chamber or leave them in there without spraying for a few days?
Thanks for all this info, its working great so far!
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forestly
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: Lacockle]
#18464013 - 06/24/13 05:01 AM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lacockle said: I'm a little confused about drying out my cakes after the first flush. Does that mean I should move them out of my fruiting chamber or leave them in there without spraying for a few days?
Thanks for all this info, its working great so far!
The question has been answered in this thread already.. Anyway, you leave the cakes inside the FC and dont mist for a few days - so, they dehydrate. Then you dunk em.
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: forestly]
#18611966 - 07/25/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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DUDE! New to the site, been lurkin a while though. I was searching for a good beginners guide, you know, up in that search thingy, and low and behold I found exactly what I was looking for! High Five! A few of the acronyms and abreviations were confusing at first but after reading through this a few times, Im excited to get my project underway!
So, thanks!
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EvilMushroom666
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 Good luck!
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EnterTheCosmos
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Same here. Thanks for compiling all of this information in one place. Following this tek has turned out great for me so far.
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: EnterTheCosmos]
#18612043 - 07/25/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am always glad to hear that others have had success from my take on the BRF tek, tickles me pink!
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doorsboy
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: EnterTheCosmos]
#18807802 - 09/06/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know it's frowned upon to bump old threads, but I just want to thank EvilMushroom666 for compiling all this great information into one place with great pictures and easy instructions, I'll be following it to the tee for my first grow in about a week. Except I'll be using a PMP setup instead of a shotgun terrarium. I'll also be starting my own grow thread once that time comes!
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EvilMushroom666
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Re: EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes [Re: doorsboy]
#18809170 - 09/06/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good luck
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