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when to fruit penis envy monotub?
    #15218704 - 10/13/11 12:37 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

ive got some colonizing monotubs of pe and i think i recall someone saying with pe to fruit once hyphal knots form for best results.  cant remember where i read it though.  anyone got the answer im looking for?  anyone got a decent pe fruiting/pinning strategy?


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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: the_hatter]
    #15218723 - 10/13/11 12:41 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: k00laid]
    #15218741 - 10/13/11 12:45 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

thanks man! is the leaving till knots form just standard for cubensis?


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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: the_hatter]
    #15218748 - 10/13/11 12:47 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

proper consolidation of substrates is standard for most species,

psychoactive or otherwise.

shiitake substrates will be left for months to form "bark" before they are ready to fruit.


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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: k00laid]
    #15218802 - 10/13/11 12:59 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

good info, thanks man.  ive always heard to fruit once the tub is fully colonized or when the mycelium is poking through the valleys of the casing.


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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: the_hatter]
    #15218811 - 10/13/11 01:01 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

well the second part is true.

if you are using a casing layer, that layer is not supposed to be fully colonized.

we achieve this by altering the PH of the casing to a level that mushroom mycelium doesnt much enjoy. through the use of lime.

but cubensis do not require a casing layer, and benefit very minimally. so casing layers are not used very often.

you just spawn to bulk substrate.

wait for full colonization, wait a few more days.

introduce fruiting conditions.

the other psilocybes, like azures and such require a casing layer.


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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: k00laid]
    #15223098 - 10/14/11 02:17 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

yeah i know cubensis doesnt generally require a casing layer but i like to do little casings in tupperware.  im not casing my bulk though aside from one smaller guy to see if there is a noticable difference.  but what im actually looking for is info specific to pe.  ive heard they take around two weeks to pin, which kind of makes sense i guess cause they colonized the jars in one week when it normally takes two for me.  definately gonna give it some extra time but im just a little worried about overlay, never had it but it would certainly suck.  i remember someone saying something like open one hole or crack the lid when its fully colonized and wait for knots then put in fruiting conditions, or something like that i just cant remember where i came across that and i dont want to fuck it up on something im not sure of.  ever heard of this with pe? if i recall correctly it was either because sitting for two weeks in fruiting conditions causes contams or because if the mycelium doesnt consolidate well enough there will be a crappy mutated flush.  ever heard of this?


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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: the_hatter]
    #15225875 - 10/14/11 06:41 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

overlay is like the boogie man.

for a while you think he is always right underneath you.

but he never comes out


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Re: when to fruit penis envy monotub? [Re: k00laid]
    #15226012 - 10/14/11 07:12 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Idk how much this will help you but I have a few PE cakes in the SGFC right now and another tray made up of my sub mix and 2 pe cakes that is still colonizing
These cakes probably consolidated for about 3 days after taking almost 3 weeks to colonize.
I Dunked them for 24 hours and cased them in a verm/gyp/hyd lime mix
Im probably down in my grow room 5/6 times a day fanning and misting
(using a finely dialed in sprayer that purely mists its sprays so nice, took forever to get it to do that) quite a bit.  I just got my first pin today 5th day of being in fc...
So basically Im saying if its fully colonized and had a couple days for consolidation ... fruit it.  I think PE likes a lot of evaporation to trigger pinning IME now.  So as long as you can spray an fan enough you should get pins quickly and probably a lot of them.
So far on my 3 cakes I can see spots everywhere where pins are going to come in.


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