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Identify my mushroom...
    #15204919 - 10/10/11 11:28 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I used to buy from a guy i met online. I decided it was too costly and began to grow my own. I grew cubensis. After trying the cubensis after it  fruited, i realized it was no where near in intesity as the ones i used to buy.

I asked the guy what strain his was and he said cyanescens. At the time i didnt know much about shrooms so i didnt ask him if it was pan or psilo

now that i do know, the guy is no where to be found so i cant ask him

so i need help figuring it out...

doing 1/8th

I remember the trip was very intense; extremely euphoric; very visual; everything would seem extremely "high definition"; it gave me a lot of energy; the trip lasted a long time; i could do them day after day and it would still have good affects without developing tolerance but my body would begin to ache badly; in its dried form, it wasnt hair thin;

i really want to cultivate that strain but need to figure it out; i live in toronto canada so it wouldnt be likely that he grew psilocybin cyanescens but ive heard that pan cyan is very thin when dried and these shrooms were deff. not thin; it was almost like cubensis thick;

while im at it i might aswell as another question:

why does cubensis build up tolerance so quickly than that other strain if they both have psilocybin;

for cubensis; i did 13 grams dried without any affect at ALL!!! I only did that much because i knew i would have to do a lot to get an effect since i had done it two days before;

but for the ones i used to buy, i would only take 1/8th repetedly for a few days and it would still have very intense effects (but my body would end up aching as a result)

your help is very much appreciated;

thank you

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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: typicalgangsta]
    #15204964 - 10/10/11 11:41 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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typicalgangsta said:
I used to buy from a guy i met online. I decided it was too costly and began to grow my own. I grew cubensis. After trying the cubensis after it  fruited, i realized it was no where near in intesity as the ones i used to buy.

I asked the guy what strain his was and he said cyanescens. At the time i didnt know much about shrooms so i didnt ask him if it was pan or psilo

now that i do know, the guy is no where to be found so i cant ask him

so i need help figuring it out...

doing 1/8th

I remember the trip was very intense; extremely euphoric; very visual; everything would seem extremely "high definition"; it gave me a lot of energy; the trip lasted a long time; i could do them day after day and it would still have good affects without developing tolerance but my body would begin to ache badly; in its dried form, it wasnt hair thin;

i really want to cultivate that strain but need to figure it out; i live in toronto canada so it wouldnt be likely that he grew psilocybin cyanescens but ive heard that pan cyan is very thin when dried and these shrooms were deff. not thin; it was almost like cubensis thick;

while im at it i might aswell as another question:

why does cubensis build up tolerance so quickly than that other strain if they both have psilocybin;

for cubensis; i did 13 grams dried without any affect at ALL!!! I only did that much because i knew i would have to do a lot to get an effect since i had done it two days before;

but for the ones i used to buy, i would only take 1/8th repetedly for a few days and it would still have very intense effects (but my body would end up aching as a result)

your help is very much appreciated;

thank you




Would be pan cyans :smile:
They are much stronger than cubensis - see this calculator for more info:
http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator

Cubensis does not build up tolerance any faster, 13 grams DRIED is a huge amount regardless of tolerance, did you perhaps take 13 grams WET?
(most likely). Remember 13 grams wet = around 1.3 grams dried which of cubensis is next to nothing without tolerance... (Even less with tolerance).

Lastly, location makes no difference as to what strains you can grow since most people grow inside.
Also at the end of the day they all have the same chemical in them (psylobin) just in different amounts.


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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: typicalgangsta]
    #15204976 - 10/10/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The potency of a mushroom is variable depending on it's genetic makeup.

13 dried grams is a moderately heavy dose. If you felt no effects from 13 grams, I would assume that you probably didn't eat P. Cubensis...


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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: Jitsu]
    #15205014 - 10/10/11 11:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Jitsu said:
The potency of a mushroom is variable depending on it's genetic makeup.

13 dried grams is a moderately heavy dose. If you felt no effects from 13 grams, I would assume that you probably didn't eat P. Cubensis...




I think he ate 13 grams wet.

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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: typicalgangsta]
    #15205015 - 10/10/11 11:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I remember the trip was very intense; extremely euphoric; very visual; everything would seem extremely "high definition"; it gave me a lot of energy; the trip lasted a long time; i could do them day after day and it would still have good affects without developing tolerance but my body would begin to ache badly; in its dried form, it wasnt hair thin;




Hard to say.  I'd think from Ps. cyans (compared to cubes) you'd get more enthenogenic effects compared to almost anything else.  Ps. cyans also delivered immense math to me.  However the achy part is pretty typical of Ps. cyans IME.  I have no direct experience with Pan cyans to compare to. :shrug:

Also Ps. cyans are hard to cultivate indoors (though I've done it) as they're picky as to temps they'll pin at and slow growing, slow fruiting - I did grow a fortuitous mutation for quite a few years that fruited under cubes enviro but was about 2x stronger.  Wish I had those going again... :Awemush:

As to the rest you may have grown very weak or completely bunk cubes - it happens, unfortunately.  Try a few other strains and particularly look at the ones with reps for potency.

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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: Jitsu]
    #15205261 - 10/10/11 12:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It was deff 13 grams dry; i know thats a lot of mushrooms but i barely felt ne effect; also consider im on ssri blockers so that may have contributed but i hadnt taken my pills for a few days so i could get a proper trip...

it was "golden mammoth"

ive had good trips of them before but i dont know what happened that time;

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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #15205267 - 10/10/11 12:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

But wouldnt pan cyans be really thin when dried? the ones i had were moderate thickness; like cubensis when dried

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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: typicalgangsta]
    #15205393 - 10/10/11 01:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It would most definitely be the SSRI blockers. I believe you have to be off them for much longer than a few days.


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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #15205413 - 10/10/11 01:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Also .. were you taking SSRIs when you originally ate the 'potent' Ps. Cyans?


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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #15205422 - 10/10/11 01:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, pretty sure SSRI's take months to build up in your system, so it would take a lot longer then a few days to get out of your system. Hell I know a kid who wont take E because he took SSRI's in highschool and 4 years later he is still scared of doing E because of it. That being said, I doubt it would cancel out the effects of 13 grams. Honestly tho, I see it quite often when people grow from MS, the shrooms have almost no actives in them. Search around, and you will find posts from this week of people growing there own and having bad potency. I had a friend who grew a few years ago and they were bunk. Friends took up to a half ounce with little more then a stoned feeling. So I would guess the mix of the SSRI's and getting unlucky with shitty genetics is what happened.


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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15205516 - 10/10/11 01:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

13 grams dried is enough even with SSRI's in your system. SSRI's don't completely keep you from tripping. It just takes more shrooms. I was on them for 4 years and had to eat 10-15g dried to get a good trip. But I would still have a nice time on 7g dried ... just not mind blowing.

Golden Mammoth isn't sold by any Shroomery sponsors that I'm aware of. Chances are you got a shitty "strain". Make sure you use one of the vendors and you will not be disappointed.


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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: uncle_rico]
    #15205614 - 10/10/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I was on them when i used to buy them. I dont know yet if they are ps cyans or pan cyans but yea i was on them. I wouldnt even stop my medication before taking them. On cubensis however, i have to go off a couple of days before the trip.

Maybe the ones im growing aren't potent but i had some decent trips with them. But no where near as awsome as the other ones i used to buy...

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Re: Identify my mushroom... [Re: typicalgangsta]
    #15205638 - 10/10/11 02:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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typicalgangsta said:
I was on them when i used to buy them. I dont know yet if they are ps cyans or pan cyans but yea i was on them. I wouldnt even stop my medication before taking them. On cubensis however, i have to go off a couple of days before the trip.

Maybe the ones im growing aren't potent but i had some decent trips with them. But no where near as awsome as the other ones i used to buy...




Because they a different type :facepalm:
P. Cubensis is NOT as potent as cyans, check out that dosage calculator.

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