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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: thestringphish]
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hmmm, i find the 5-6 gram trips too be richer experiences. I don't like to trip unless i'm completley ripped out of this reality and into a different plane of existance. Anything less is just foolishly messin' around with a holy sacrament as if it were a toy to be played with in my opinion. but i realize most people will not agree with me on this. 



Sounds like a plan to me. :grin: :grin: :grin: :cool: 


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YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH ANY GIVEN DRUG ISN'T THE DEFINITIVE MEASURE OF THE DRUGS EFFECTS.

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: Ekstaza]
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hmmm, i find the 5-6 gram trips too be richer experiences. I don't like to trip unless i'm completley ripped out of this reality and into a different plane of existance. Anything less is just foolishly messin' around with a holy sacrament as if it were a toy to be played with in my opinion. but i realize most people will not agree with me on this.



sounds like last night to me!

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: icewall]
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I remember the first time I tripped in total darkness. It actually never occured to me that this could be done, but a few years back when I first discovered the shroomery I encountered many threads on the subject and I thought during my next trip I would give it a try.

I had like 3 trips after I read the posts and still never got around to it, but on the forth trip, my friend and I had dosed heavily on some freashly picked Hawaiians... like 35 gs a piece. My hallucenations were intense and I quickly lost touch with reality... but sometime durning my trip I was ripped back into reality to notice my friend curled up into a ball on the couch. I found it amazing how his suffering could bring me back to reality on such a high level trip! I tried to stay calm and tested several soulutions trying to ease his mental suffering. He was basically in a full blown nightmare. I put music on for him... that didn't work. I tried to give him a glass of wine to clam him down... that didn't work. I tried distracting him but giving him silly putty to play with... didn't work. I turned on the TV and tried to get him to watch some cartoons and that only seemed to upset him more. I only could think of one more solution... try turning off all the lights and see how that would effect both him and I... I had nothing to lose. I was practically on the verge of a bad trip running around the house trying to find solutions for his maddness.

So, I blocked all light sources that were comimg into the room. Threw a blanket over my window, unplugged the VCR and DVD. Unplugged my alarm clock and put a blanket at the base of my door. I put a boom box in the middle of the room and put soothing music on... I think it was Enya, then I covered the boom box up with a blanket too. I made sure my friend was comfortable. I gave him blankets and pillows to wrap himself into. I laid on the floor, reached for my lamp and turned it off... then the darkness followed. Then a huged burst of light. Visual objects were every where, moving and dancing to the music. I was completely in awe! My friend seemed to instantly snap out of his fear and found his self in utter amazment too! We couldn't stop laughing at what we were wittnessing! We sat in the dark room for hours dicussing with each other the things we seeing! The room was anything and everything but dark. I floated through seas of color and geometric patterns. I traveled through the depths of space and all the back. I viewed childhood memories... as vivid as watching TV. . .memories that had been long forgotten. I laughed and smiled... an array of emotions ran through my body all at once. As each speciffic emotion ran through me, the color of the room would change according to the emotion. To sum up the whole experience, it was utterly amazing!

Now, when I find time to trip, I never fail darken my surrondings and put on some music. My mind paints the most beuatiful pictures, and each time is a totally different experience.


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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: thestringphish]
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I dunno - while I agree on the sacrament part, I've not found that the lessons I've learned from psychedelics or even shrooms is that it all must be Very Serious and that slack-jawed drooling at the walls is the only use -- I've very much learned that much of the point of life is to be happy and have fun -- and that's just as sacred as visiting other planes.

Seriously, if it works for you that way, great, but I'm becoming wary of people who seem to be the psychedelic version of Christian Fundamentalists.


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"Remember, son,
I didn't sell out-
I bought in."

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: valour]
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I love tripping in darkness. I actually haven't tried it other ways yet.  I have always tripped at night.  Next time, i'm goign to go camping and do it that way. That should be a shitload of fun :smile:

Jr


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As I felt the soft cool mud squish between my toes, I thought, Man, these are not very good shoes!

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: Asante]
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hi again, sorry i'm a bit late.. i'm always having trouble putting my thoughts into words, so i hope you get what i'm saying here:

"Why would it be bad to get very focused on your own thoughts? In my personal view it's one of the PRIME REASONS for Shrooming at all! Sure the sensory orgasm of synaesthesia and what-have-you-not is a delight, but if you're afraid to come TOO CLOSE TO YOURSELF you shouldn't be tripping in the first place. Do you regard the Mushrooms to be mind-altering tools or merely a cognitive/sensory kaleidoscope to bring about a great confusion?"

why am i afraid? well, it could turn out in 2 different ways:

1) i would be perfectly calm and relaxed, and the mushrooms would help me see that there is a reason for everything that goes on in my life, and that i should not feel bad or guilty about anything.

2) i would get focused on what i think people think of me, what they tell me to do, why i cant be more like them. bad stuff like that, simply because its not easy for me to just say 'fuck it, i'm different and i'm doing things my way and i dont give a toss what other people say or think'.

i have only once had a very unpleasant experience which was during and after the comedown of a very intense and wonderful trip. my mind was just flooded with negative thoughts, just because i could not realise that my trip actually ended and was in fact a trip, not something that was as real as it seemed. For the first time in my life, i felt utterly depressed, even the day after. This is the only thing i fear to encounter again.

Either way, i now know that there is no way around this for me anymore. You and so many other people have convinced me that this way of tripping is pretty much essential for a truely amazing experience.

I've yet to still learn a whole lot about mushrooms and the way they work for me, but i cannot imagine that i will ever lose interest. To answer your question as to how i look at mushrooms: well, all i know is that they have changed my life in a positive way already, even though i have not been familiar with them for long. Yes, i do use mushrooms for recreational value, but at the same time, i know that no matter how fun things get, i can enjoy things, but never ignore the other things like confusion and unpleasant thoughts that lurk around every corner. I know that even negative experiences can help me realise a lot of important things.

i am now looking forward to my next 'journey into my brain'  :smile:

thank you!
   

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: chinacat72]
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yeah, this is how I tripped the last time.... I don't think that it really matters as much as terence makes it out though. true, the most visionary trips that I've had were generally at night alone, but I think that that's cause I (and most people) tend to trip (or use other drugs) at night. and just cause you're with people when you start in no way guarantees you'll be with people during the real meat of the peak, I've found at least, that even if you're all kind of together very little communication takes place and you all move into seperate, private places. at least for the real trippy part, of course there's all kinds of communial stuff that happens coming up and down.
anyway, I chose to trip alone and in the dark last time cause I had not tripped on mushrooms since the end of last summer. I've really been doing the school thing, and it became hard to get ahold of the any of the limited supply of shrooms in my town, (they're always around, but the people who actively deal, like supporting themselves or whatever, tend to hog most of the shrooms) during the year. So this was the longest time I had spent not tripping since I started in my jr year of high school (I'm a college soph. now), so I was thinking that I'd really trip out. but I was totally in control. I took 5 grams. I took the dose spilt up into several, but still, I think that doseage plays a smaller part than people like terence and leary say, and the set and setting aren't as important either. I think that tripping, and rolling, is more about not expecting what's going to happen and some sort of cosmic get-what-you-need-when-you-need-it karmatic law type of thing. like tripping is a process, and if you get used to the process, doing the same thing (taking the same "high" doses) won't let you progess. So I'm going to eat 7 gs at the new matrix, and just not worry about it.


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The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side.
- Paul Tillich

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: chinacat72]
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hell yeah - if you're gunna trip, TRIP.


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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: Strumpling] * 1
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hell yeah - if you're gunna trip, TRIP.



Very true IMO. For me personaly as I have gotten older I trip a lot less frequently.2-4 times per year. My goal is ego-death every time. And I can reach it everytime. Thats were my inspiration, guidance, and healing come from. Since I trip so infrequently I make them count. My current method is 4-5 grams of cubes + 50mg. DMT smoked at around the 3 hour mark(after peak). Alone in the dark. This method gives me the best results at this point in my life.
This is by far not the only way or setting to enjoy psychedelics. For me it's what works best.

Nothing beat's LSD and a Grateful Dead concert. Sadly though it's not an option anymore.


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Some rise
Some fall
Some climb
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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: chinacat72]
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I noticed you guys talking about doing combination trips. I wanted to know if anyone here has ever taken something like Kava Kava to make them mellow out and then taken shrooms and had a nice STRONG mellow trip. I want to trip strong, but not get all insane. I want to play with marshmellow men or live with Winnie The Pooh in the Hundred Acre Woods for a while or something. a) What do you suggest I do to get myself really mellow - and b) would this (Kava Kava or Xanax or something) kill the trip??...

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: HoneyPoohBear]
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Xanax in a high dose will kill your trip. At low doses it seems to take the magic away. For me at least it does. Kava Kava I don't know.

What I have found to be an invaluable tool over the years for tripping and life is meditation. A hour of meditation before my trip free's me enough to handle the transformation of conciousness without any anxiety or bad vibes.
For me though meditation is like a sport. You have to do it awhile and regualry for before you get real good at it. Again this is me personally.

Plus meditation daily improves my day to day mental perception beyond words.
I can help integrate the deep experiances of tripping with my day to day life.


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Some fall
Some climb
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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: Asante] * 1
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Ok first of all I don't know why I cant start any threads but I have some serious shit to ask the people specifically in the 5GISD community. Since this was the person who sent me the welcome message, I hope that you can refer me to the right post to ask my question or, if you know something about breathing "sequences," for a lack of better term, during an intense trip such as 5gisd. This was a very, very interesting experience and I would like to know if anyone knows what I am talking about with this "psychedelic" breathing to further go into the experience (among other things) with breath.

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: Anonymous]
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jesus is mad and i can build pyramids with my head why am i dead

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: autisticlemur]
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What the fuck

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Re: 5 grams in silent darkness [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
If you've never at least once tripped in silent darkness...
You're not serious about tripping.

All my trips are in silent darkness now, unless social factors prevent this.
Not done this before?

"What if you turned the Shroom on and shut the World off?" :grin:
Interesting thought eh?


 



Agreed! It's the way to go. I usually chicken out too much to eat 5g, but I'll go with about 4.

You are right about turning the mushrooms on and the world off. Its a completely different experience when there is no sensory input coming from 3d reality. The entire experience comes from within you and it utterly magical.

In my opinion, people haven't seriously experienced psychedelics if they haven't faced a full does in silent darkness.


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Lets keep this sacred medicine alive and well! I embrace the shamans, psychonauts, and alchemists of our time :mushroom2:

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