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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: shLong]
    #15186463 - 10/06/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Ive always liked the green tree pytons, so purdy :Awemazing:

And when they're young they can be anywhere from red to lime green :raveface:
and they strike from above and kill the mice in mid-air





Same here, always liked them and will definitely have one at some point.  I think my fascination with them may spawn from reading Verdi when I was a little kid



Probably gonna stick with boas for a while though.  After I get a male red tail I think the next snake on my list is either a

rainbow boa



boa constrictor longicauda



or maybe an argintine boa



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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: MorphinTime]
    #15192195 - 10/07/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'd go with the Peruvian for sure.  Especially an anery. God those are beautiful snakes...


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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #15192441 - 10/07/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd go with the Peruvian for sure.  Especially an anery. God those are beautiful snakes...




I'm right there with you man

I wanna see a full sized adult anery Peruvian with the same perfect coloration as that baby so badly. :sunny:

From all the pictures I can find it looks like they yellow/brown up quite a bit as they grow :sad:


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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: MorphinTime]
    #15193656 - 10/07/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

unfortunately with most snakes man, especially boas, like 90% of em look the best when they're born.  from what ive seen  Motley's stay lookin real nice, jungles are pretty good about it, but the roswells ive seen haven't lost anything.  thats probably my end goal. Roswell and motley roswell.... :whacker:


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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #15194663 - 10/08/11 03:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Was trying to find out what a motley roswell looks like and came across super motleys.  I must say I think I like these better than the argentines.









This is the only pic I could find claiming to be a motley roswell.  Is this what they look like?  If so, very cool :thumbup:





I'm finding a lot of the darker morphs to be really attractive

leopards are pretty nice









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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #15194831 - 10/08/11 05:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Going to a Reptile Expo in a few days. Hoping to pick up a green andaconda.




Hope that works out for you.  Please post pics if you get one


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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: MorphinTime]
    #15195717 - 10/08/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

super motleys are one of the most beautiful morphs even as they get older, but they have alot of problems. theres something wrong with the super form, most of the supers that are produced dont make it past a few months.  its really weird because the single motley gene makes a really strong snake.  The one you showed looks like a motley het roswell. i dont think theres any motley roswells produced right now. if there are, theyre locked in someone's basement in secrecy. haha
have you seen the T+ argentines?  thats probably the only argentine i would get if i were lookin for one.

if your into darker kinds of morphs, look into the aztec's. they're really variable, but some of them.....god theyre gorgeous.


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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #15196042 - 10/08/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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super motleys are one of the most beautiful morphs even as they get older, but they have alot of problems. theres something wrong with the super form, most of the supers that are produced dont make it past a few months.  its really weird because the single motley gene makes a really strong snake.  The one you showed looks like a motley het roswell. i dont think theres any motley roswells produced right now. if there are, theyre locked in someone's basement in secrecy. haha
have you seen the T+ argentines?  thats probably the only argentine i would get if i were lookin for one.

if your into darker kinds of morphs, look into the aztec's. they're really variable, but some of them.....god theyre gorgeous.





I've heard that there were problems with super motleys but I thought it had something to do with them either being sterile or having some kind of issues reproducing.  I know (more like think) to get a super motley it takes two motleys.  Does that mean a super motley is homozygous for the motley genotype and the regular motleys are heterozygous?  Or are there multiple genes involved in expression of the motley phenotype?  If the super motley is a newer morph I wonder if their problems have to do with inbreeding or at least not outbreeding to a separate line of other motleys.  I've also read somewhere they think a leucistic boa is possible but they haven't been able to make one yet.  This has me thinking I should maybe refocus my studies towards genetics because breeding boas sounds like it could be a challenge as well as fun :cool:


These are supposed to be a motley argentine boas.  I like 'em.






The t+ argentine I like as well.






Seems like you weren't kidding about the variations between Aztecs.  Here are some that I would love to have or at least handle once












Didn't like most of the super aztecs, but I found these to be pretty sweet







This one's a leucistic rainbow boa, so maybe a leucistic red tail is possible




Really hope they can find a way to breed super morphs that live healthy lives, their iridescence is absolutely stunning :heart:



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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: MorphinTime]
    #15196657 - 10/08/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)


I've heard that there were problems with super motleys but I thought it had something to do with them either being sterile or having some kind of issues reproducing.  I know (more like think) to get a super motley it takes two motleys.
:murray: yes!
Does that mean a super motley is homozygous for the motley genotype and the regular motleys are heterozygous?    close. technically its co-dominant.  motley, hypo, and jungle are some of the dominant heterozygous gens  :fonz:  dom. het. only needs 1 gene to exhibit the trait.
Or are there multiple genes involved in expression of the motley phenotype?  Its possible. but i dont think it needs another gene to do this to the offspring.  there would probably be an improvement if there were more wild motley out crossing, but that would be incredible to find another wild one.
If the super motley is a newer morph I wonder if their problems have to do with inbreeding or at least not out breeding to a separate line of other motleys.
I've also read somewhere they think a leucistic boa is possible but they haven't been able to make one yet.  This has me thinking I should maybe refocus my studies towards genetics because breeding boas sounds like it could be a challenge as well as fun
:cool:

i would probably lean towards the need for outcrossing. the problem is that (dont quote me on this)  i dont think there are many "lines" of motley.  A Lucy boa is certainly possible, we just haven't found the right genes yet.  a lleucistic is just a blue or black eyed snow. so its albino, and anery, but there's a twist somewhere that blocks the red from the eyes and sometimes the tongue.  i don't know much more about those genetics but its out there. i would recommend looking into it. i find it fascinating.

all those boas are real nice man.  there's so many nice ones out there, and even more to be made.


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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #15199203 - 10/09/11 07:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Have you had any experience with emerald tree boas?  I was wondering how they are as pets in comparison to green tree pythons.  It seems like they grow to a similar size and the temps and humidity levels needed for both are about the same.


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Re: Boa Enthusiasts [Re: MorphinTime]
    #15202032 - 10/09/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

ya know i don't have much experience with them.  i know they're very similar to the green tree, but the emerald is supposed to have a little better attitude.  green tree pythons are kinda snappy, but man are they nice looking.  honestly i don't think they are very different besides the fact that they're in different families.

personally, when im ready to collect pythons, i plan on getting a scrub, a jaguar carpet, and a nice female retic.  ive gotten more into scorpions and T's since i started collecting boas.


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