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flickedbic
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Have you read that book? I'm a little perplexed why you would recommend it on the subject of quantum entanglement because in the Amazon reviews I read this:
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Well, one quibble about content - as far as I could find, there is no treatment of entanglement, which is the main reason I opened the book. Isn't that a pretty important area of quantum physics?
-Learner
http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Physics-Dummies-Steven-Holzner/product-reviews/0470381884
I added a short vid to my previous comment re: quantum entaglement.
Blessings.
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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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Samuel L Jackson
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: flickedbic]
#15201887 - 10/09/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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no i haven't read it. i just found it fitting.
maybe if you look beyond crappy youtube videos you will see why you and that video are wrong. hell, i spent 5 minutes looking this stuff up and i know that video is wrong. but i guess youre a qualified physicist after that youtube video and are worthy of a degree in quantum physics. i of course wont claim that i am, but i took more time to research the topic at hand than watching a 1 minute video.
heres another cool thing to think about, a lot of real scientific theory is blown out of proportion for TV and videos like that on youtube to catch the interest of people and make money.
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I apologize if I have offended you...
I have heard it often said that "sensationalism sells"; and think it wise to take things with a grain of salt.
Blessings.
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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Sly Stone]
#15201949 - 10/09/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sly Stone said: I ate white paper and didn't trip.
Michaal Jackson used White Out by the case.
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flickedbic
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Nice signature OrgoneConclusion.
It reminds me of what is sometimes said: that ones' enemy is really ones' greatest teacher.
I think it a good example also of what the plant allies can do... is that what Swami was referring to or is that just coincidence?
Blessings.
PS: Done any work with Orgone energy? Interesting story; that of Wilhelm Reich...
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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: flickedbic]
#15202933 - 10/09/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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flickedbic said: I think PLACEBO shows this to be so. Beyond this; It has been proven that our intentions can influence reality in the Stanford random-number-generator mind-influence experiments.
That hasn't been proven at all. In fact those experiments were widely criticized based on their poor statistical analysis and methodology...
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: NetDiver]
#15203379 - 10/10/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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In praising the work of the Princeton Engineering Anomalous Research (PEAR) Laboratory on ESP and PK, McTaggart did not mention that a major discovery of the lab was that their random number generators (RNGs) were found to drift off random by themselves.
Thank you for the heads up on the Princeton tests.
I did a version of the water intention test; the Masaru Emoto Rice test.
This rice I seperated evenly into 3 containers; writing "Love" on one, nothing on the controll, and "Hate" on the third.
I spoke the words with true feeling; "I love you" to the Love rice, "I hate you" to the Hate rice; while ignoring the controll.
I got the same results shown in the youtube videos where people have done this... The Love rice stayed white; the control had a bit of mold growth; and the Hate rice turned black.
This is supposedly an intention experiment but since I was vocalizing at the rice also perhaps that played a role. I would be interesting in re-trying without words. I only ran the experiment one time: so there is the possibility of contaminants getting into the Hate rice...
Interesting related article and audio from Dr. Carla Hannaford http://www.peaceburgh.net/articles/are-our-minds-entangled
Her new book "Playing in the Unified Field" has a Foreword by physicist William A Tiller, who was featured in the popular film, “What the Bleep Do We Know?" and is currently Professor Emeritus at Stanford University.
Blessings.
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All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental. Blessing.
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: flickedbic]
#15203587 - 10/10/11 01:33 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you could do that under controlled conditions and supervision, you would win a million dollars from JREF. Most people would rather be poor and unknown than claim the prize so that they can keep the fantasy alive. Perhaps you will be different.
BTW, Emoto (aka Mr. Roboto) is a fucking moron.
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: flickedbic]
#15203616 - 10/10/11 01:42 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Interesting related article and audio from Dr. Carla Hannaford http://www.peaceburgh.net/articles/are-our-minds-entangled
Really, this is the route you want to take?
Are Our Minds Entangled?
Carla Hannaford
A quantum physicist explains the scientific proof of telepathy and other psychic phenomena. She says we're not "psychic," we're "entangled." Also enjoy this wide-ranging conversation with the author.
Absolutley nothing interesting here to the educated. First off, one does not 'explain a (non-mathematical) proof'. Nowhere in science is this done. One must DEMONSTRATE (or gather) EVIDENCE before even attempting to figure out the possible mechanism. This is as silly as explaining why unicorns only mate under rainbows.

Now you are going to drag out 'What the Bleep do We Know?' movie, a thoroughly debunked piece of trash? Really? Why not add 'The Secret' to the heap of nonsense?
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: flickedbic]
#15203628 - 10/10/11 01:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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In one groundbreaking study, quantum physicist, Amit Goswami, demonstrated that the phenomenon of quantum entanglement occurs between people as well as subatomic particles. He ran some experiments in which pairs of people were asked to meditate together for a period of time to establish “entanglement". Each pair was then separated over a large distance (often over 2,000 miles) and hooked up to EEG machines. One of the pair of meditators was rigged with an apparatus that would flash a red light in his eyes. Whenever the light flashed in the "target" meditator's eyes, the EEG pattern would change, and at exactly the same moment, the distant meditator's EEG pattern would also change in exactly the same way. There is no way that the conventional view of reality can explain such results.
Peer reviewed? No.
Replicated? No.
Worth as an experiment? Zero.
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This is as silly as explaining why unicorns only mate under rainbows.
What's so silly about that?
Rainbows are aphrodisiacs. True story.
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Bad example...
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How so?
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It is common knowlege.
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For a second there I thought you were accusing me of not being awesome. And then you posted that and I was like of course I am. True story.
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SamuelLJackson said: well, when you can tell me in what fundamental way my life has been changed by taking drugs you come back here and tell me about it and i'll give it some more thought. but as far as i can tell i am on the same exact path i was prior to doing drugs. and dont even try to pull some crap like "well you wouldnt be on this forum right now" because that is akin to attributing who i am as a person to the fact that i bought one pair of shoes as opposed to another because i would be wearing the other shoes had i bought them instead.
as for the people whose lives are fundamentally altered by these substances, i personally view it as a weak will. if i really wanted to im sure i could give in to the nonsense i experience on drugs. hell, i even gave it a shot once. i gave up drugs for 2 weeks after a "spiritual experience" on 2c-e and after those 2 weeks realized that it was total nonsense and went back to my old ways.
i think its fairly amusing that people take something they feel while on a drug and put that in action in their real life when in their real life they never made the same connection or experienced the same feeling.
for example: on drugs i often feel the supposed connectedness of everything. strangely enough, i never feel that when i dont have a ton of hallucinogens coursing through my veins. thus, i dont run around spouting that we are all one being subjectively experiencing its self as if its fact.
There's a big difference between thinking that drugs have led you to the ultimate truth of all everything, and having experiences that change your life or your perspective. I'm absolutely certain that psychedelics can give you the latter. A heavy trip is an extremely psychologically intense experience that can alter your outlook as radically as a vacation, a car crash, a book/work of art, or any other memorable event in your life.
You may not have had your outlook on the world changed by psychedelics, but that is not true of everybody, and that doesn't make people who have had life-changing trips "weak-willed" anymore than anyone else who changes because of a psychologically intense event.
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...so Mr Jackson, you goin all ghetto on us HUH?
I cannot help when I am reading people's posts to also be aware of the avatars they choose, and pics and sayings. Yours is showing black faces, and the big one is of a youth with a pretty hard bitten arrogant face. some kid who has been abused and would abuse you to survive given the chance. Now--is you sayin that psychedelic healing wouldn't help him? That he would laugh at such a suggestion...?
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: NetDiver]
#15203745 - 10/10/11 02:51 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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what? speak out
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: zzripz]
#15203747 - 10/10/11 02:52 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dear ZZ,
Please tell us what ancient Central Amercian civilization embraced the use of magic mushrooms?
OK, now tell us how it cured them of violence and attitude.
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