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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: 4896744]
    #15213374 - 10/12/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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iThink said:
Was that an argument?




NO


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #15213409 - 10/12/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Making unsubstantiated points is fun!

I am the most attractive male in the world!!!!


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! [Re: 4896744]
    #15213444 - 10/12/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

grats!


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Re: ! [Re: Kickle]
    #15213457 - 10/12/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If only it were true. :nonono:


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Re: ! [Re: 4896744]
    #15213483 - 10/12/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

if it were true for you then it wouldn't be true for me. sorry you got the short end of that stick.


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Re: ! [Re: Kickle]
    #15213491 - 10/12/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I would settle for second.


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Re: ! [Re: 4896744]
    #15213497 - 10/12/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

ok but your trophy isn't what you expect
:glittershitz:


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Re: ! [Re: Kickle]
    #15213578 - 10/12/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i can play too...this thread was not created simply to reaffirm a materialist bias!


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Re: ! [Re: g00ru]
    #15213636 - 10/12/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I found it a sad loss of history personally, not reinforcing for a materialistic viewpoint. I also don't hold the belief that what a shaman does or is capable of has anything to do with protecting themselves from harm. But I've never been with the shamans killed and they may very well have claimed just that in which case OC's point is well made. In lieu of that, it's well made for those who would defend a shaman's ability to magically protect themselves from death.


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Re: ! [Re: g00ru]
    #15213705 - 10/12/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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i can play too...this thread was not created simply to reaffirm a materialist bias!




Then why don't you try to put forth an argument?


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: 4896744]
    #15213720 - 10/12/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

see...?


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: zzripz] * 2
    #15213727 - 10/12/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Idk, it might be helpful to know what you are referencing.


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: zzripz] * 1
    #15213793 - 10/12/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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what is YOUR philosophy of life? let us have a look at it shall we clever clogs?



Yes, somebody is going to explain their whole philosophy of life just so you can offer an ad-hominem response that has nothing to do with whether or not shamans can heal people. :rolleyes:

Here's my philosophy of life: You can give your life whatever meaning you want. Somehow, I manage to do that without believing in spirits, ghosts, gods, magic, shamanic healing, or other nonsense designed to convince people they will live beyond their death. I also manage to treat my fellow beings decently, without a conviction that I will be punished by a higher power if I fail to do so.

Bizarre, huh?


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: NetDiver]
    #15213962 - 10/12/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You can lead a horse to water, zzripz...

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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: flickedbic] * 2
    #15213992 - 10/12/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

...but you can't make it believe unsupported bullshit just by repeating it over and over again.

Is that how the saying goes?


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: NetDiver]
    #15214013 - 10/12/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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flickedbic said:
You can lead a horse to water, zzripz...

Blessings.



Quote:

Samurai Drifter said:
...but you can't make it believe unsupported bullshit just by repeating it over and over again.

Is that how the saying goes?




yea you can. you just have to write a book about it

:Trollface:

or quote a news website


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: NetDiver]
    #15214016 - 10/12/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

zzripz said:
what is YOUR philosophy of life? let us have a look at it shall we clever clogs?



Yes, somebody is going to explain their whole philosophy of life just so you can offer an ad-hominem response that has nothing to do with whether or not shamans can heal people. :rolleyes:




keep yer hair on...
All I asked is what your philosophy of life is and you have told me.

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Here's my philosophy of life: You can give your life whatever meaning you want. Somehow, I manage to do that without believing in spirits, ghosts, gods, magic, shamanic healing, or other nonsense designed to convince people they will live beyond their death. I also manage to treat my fellow beings decently, without a conviction that I will be punished by a higher power if I fail to do so.

Bizarre, huh?




so, you don't believe in spirits, ghosts, gods, magic, shamanic healing, or other 'nonesense'. you don't believe we will live beyond death. But you respect people even though you don't do it cause you fear some higher power will punish you if you don't.


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: zzripz]
    #15214424 - 10/12/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Haha the saying goes something like that (only rainforest medicine is not B.S. and is substantiated as in the previous page)...  However Hitler might say
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Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”




And his friend Joseph Goebbels:
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”




Reminds me of the self-inflicted wound/false-flag terror attacks of 9/11; and the Reichstag fire.

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4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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    #15214451 - 10/12/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: HigherConsciousnes]
    #15214466 - 10/12/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I believe the churches may make up these gods and say only they can commune with them so they can sit on their ass and get free food from the community.

Blessings.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


Edited by flickedbic (10/12/11 03:09 PM)


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