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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15196169 - 10/08/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Awww, it's nice to see you having a good day OC.


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15196234 - 10/08/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
I spent $1500 on a protective amulet, now I have to watch my back!




You should have bought...



....wait for it...



...the watch!  :wink:

:suicide:


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Samuel L Jackson] * 1
    #15200133 - 10/09/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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SamuelLJackson said:
i think youre well on youre way to sounding like some burnt out old man just like terrence mckenna.




:megacrankey:

Watch it Mace, or I might have to get all Skywalker on that shit.  :jedi:

:lol: As for the part about pyschedelics not affecting long term change in the people who take them....that makes no sense. 

At a most basic level who "you" are currently is heavily influenced by the experiences "you" have had.  So this whole sentence here-

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im still the same old person i was prior to pumping myself full of substances except for the fact that i know what its like to do those substances




Makes no sense IMO.

Furthermore there are myriads of people on here who will swear and give references to how their lives have improved after taking shrooms...and on the flip side of that coin there are plenty of posts in the mental health section asking for help when they got worse.

So all in all I must now give you the finger wag.  :nono:


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: LegitStupidity] * 2
    #15200234 - 10/09/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I can tell now you are just replying to be right.




Who'd ever do that in a debate forum.

That's just fucking crazy!  :whoa:


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #15201097 - 10/09/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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well, when you can tell me in what fundamental way my life has been changed by taking drugs you come back here and tell me about it and i'll give it some more thought.




While I do appreciate you acknowledging my psychic abilities, for the sake of argument let's pretend like I didn't even know you existed until earlier this morning. :lol:

How am I supposed to hop into your mind and tell you that precisely? That's your job.

An observation- I don't know what you thought before you started taking the drugs...but judging solely from this thread it would seem that your experiences have convinced you that they have no "real world" applications and that people who believe they do are "weak willed" morons.

That would seem to be a direct result of your experiences IMO. 

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SamuelLJackson said:on drugs i often feel the supposed connectedness of everything. strangely enough, i never feel that when i dont have a ton of hallucinogens coursing through my veins. thus, i dont run around spouting that we are all one being subjectively experiencing its self as if its fact.




So as a thought experiment- What do you think would happen if one day you did have a full blown Unity experience off drugs, sitting on your couch?  :strokebeard:


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #15201479 - 10/09/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Everybody got a response but me.  :cryariver:


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Icelander]
    #15201525 - 10/09/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hey don't knock street people Ice.  They are apparently super reliable.

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and go tell that to people on the street. tell me how many of them laugh at you.




Motherfucker

(It really does make most every sentence better if you throw that on the end.)

Motherfucker.  :smile:


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #15201544 - 10/09/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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i dont know how to respond to you. the first part of your post, which follows the first quote, comes across as a statement.




You said they haven't impacted you, I said IMO they had and gave you my reasoning.  I would expect that you could agree/disagree with my observation. :shrug:

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SamuelLJackson said:the second part, which follows the second quote, comes across too vague.

what is "a full blown unity experience"?




I'm referencing whatever you were describing in the quote as what you are able to feel on drugs but not off of them.  To recap-

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on drugs i often feel the supposed connectedness of everything. strangely enough, i never feel that when i dont have a ton of hallucinogens coursing through my veins




What if you did one day? Feel this without drugs I mean. Would you take it more seriously or write it off?  There's no right or wrong I am just curious.


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #15201669 - 10/09/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Seems sad to be so closed off to things...so sure of how things are.  You must have an incredibly strong ego structure to seal it all up like that.

Quite likely a good thing from most POVs.  Certainty is IMO the best antidote to terror.

Still I can't help but think of the classic zen story. 

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Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.

The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"

"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"




You may have heard a similar line in Avatar.  (ripped off Zen in ripped of Dances w/Wolves)

Been cool meeting you Samuel...Motherfucker!  :lol:


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