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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #15195946 - 10/08/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Very sad, but to what you said about the visions is a a stereotype. They don't see into whatever future they choose, it is whatever is shown by their ancestors. There are also different types of shamans who focus only on learning and understanding the energy around us.


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    #15196007 - 10/08/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Who said any of that?


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    #15196119 - 10/08/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Shamans allegedly practice their craft for wisdom and protection. They obviously got neither.



Definition of wisdom: The quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise.

As for protection, I have never heard of that. I just know that they have a vast knowledge of plants and medicinal values of plants of the rain forest. Hence the other name of Medicine man, maybe your misconception of their "protection".


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15198327 - 10/08/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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ShamanElder.com: A Shaman keeps a bubble of protection around him or herself at all times.


Shamanista.com: Some people seem to have protection almost automatically, perhaps because it was built in to their early training without much/any discussion, and they learned to put up protection without consciously thinking of it.

Sometimes protection seems to be inherent in a person’s character, karma, or personality, but it still is best to know how to do protection consciously. Everyone needs to know how to respond to unusual situations, teach those who need protection how to get it, and so on.

In indigenous cultures protection is likely to be built into shamanic practice, so that it doesn’t have to be discussed or learned separately. But for modern Europeans and Americans, brought up in a dualistic, materialist culture, such practices are generally not automatic. They are not traditional for us, and so we have to adopt and use them consciously.




Again, I see no where in here that supports your argument, the "protection" is of unusual situations that keep them safe from internal changes. Not at all relevant to death, which was the prior argument. Almost everything you posted supported mine, healing using natural items and a wiser sense of thinking.


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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15199872 - 10/09/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Shamans allegedly practice their craft for wisdom and protection. They obviously got neither.



Prior argument. ^
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Being murdered = being protected?

You have to do serious word-raping to make that even seem like it makes sense.




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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15200224 - 10/09/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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For those unfamiliar with the English language or how to use a dictionary:

Protection is the state of being guarded or shielded from exposure, injury, damage, or destruction.

Being murdered is generally considered a form of injury. To say otherwise is serious word-raping.

Anything else you need help with?



Your point is irrelevant, the protection they are talking about there is a protection of your inner self, not of physical being. I can tell now you are just replying to be right. Sorry for offending you, have a nice day. :cheers:


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