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agar question
    #15192162 - 10/07/11 03:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192192 - 10/07/11 03:22 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I use now brand health food agar. Not the same one as that, but it works. Mine says now 100% agar. Mine is like purple, orange and white and says agar agar on it. I mean its probably not ideal, but it was cheap and what was available at the health food store, so fuck it haha.


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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192208 - 10/07/11 03:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That is the stuff.

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Re: agar question [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15192213 - 10/07/11 03:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

call me stupid if im wrong but would jello subsitute for agar?


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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192243 - 10/07/11 03:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192250 - 10/07/11 03:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hit the search bar and I am sure you can find the reasons why it will not
work.

Get yourself 1-2 ounces of agar powder or flakes, health food stores are
going to charge a lot more then it is worth, asian markets will be your
best bet, they usually charge $1.50-2 per 25G packet of agar.

You will also want a lb of Light Malt Extract powder from a home brew
store, I think I spent $5-6 for a lb of it and it has lasted me coming
up on over a year and a half.

These two ingredients will make you Malt Extract Agar (MEA), and with a
few more supplies you will be well on your way.

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Re: agar question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15192262 - 10/07/11 03:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

hmmmmm i need to find these a store that has these things. i dont want to order them, im sick of ordering things off the net and them not showing up yet lol .


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Re: agar question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15192266 - 10/07/11 03:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quick search brought me to this information:

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Jello has been tried dozens of times over the years. You can find the results with a search. It isn't an agar substitute. The mycelium will feed on the gelatin, turning it back to liquid. It will also begin to rot at room temperature, leading to bacterial contamination. I'm not aware of a single success story. Sorry.
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Re: agar question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15192276 - 10/07/11 03:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i found that too after a second lol >.<


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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192278 - 10/07/11 03:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You will be able to find these items, just get on the phone and call around.

Standard MEA Mix:

500ML water
10 Grams Agar powder
10 Grams LME

This will make enough agar for roughly 15-20 plates depending upon how
thick your pours are. You can scale the recipe up or down for more or
less agar. If you are using the agar to make slants I suggest cutting the
LME in half. Also if you are isolating for rhizomorphic growth cut the
LME down as well.

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Re: agar question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15192288 - 10/07/11 03:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I don't mind paying a little more for 2oz from the health food store, because the convenience makes it worth it. A 1.2 mile drive and 4 bucks is worth it too me.  If nine-10 grams make up 20 trays, that's something like 100+ trays for 3-6 bucks. For me that isn't much.


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Re: agar question [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15192429 - 10/07/11 04:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

so i found some agar agar. i got 26g for a few bucks. now is it absolutley essential to use the light malt extract or can i just cook up the agar?. just asking cause the teks i see arnt to specific as i skim


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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192448 - 10/07/11 04:18 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The LME acts as nutrition for your mycelium, so yes you need it or something
along the same lines.

There are many different types of agar you can make, MEA just happens to
be the easiest IMO. PDYA, PDA, do a search for fastfreds media cookbook.

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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192453 - 10/07/11 04:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Go to the bar up top and go to agar and culture storage. There is a page that lists a lot of different recipes. The one I use doesn't call for malt extract, I use agar, a sugar, and cornmeal. Check it out and see which one best suits the supplies you have on hand.


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Re: agar question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15192488 - 10/07/11 04:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/9427/Grocery-Store-Agar-Tek

so say i do this! could i nuke some flakes of potatoes till they get dehydrated would that work for that? ill crush em up after


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Re: agar question [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15192604 - 10/07/11 04:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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500ML water
10 Grams Agar powder
10 Grams LME




I use this recipe also but i add 1 gram of yeast per 500ml water for extra nutrition :smile:

And i must pour my plates thick because i double the recipe and only pour 20 plates.. heheh :vaped:

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Re: agar question [Re: deadmandave]
    #15192865 - 10/07/11 06:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i followed the tec i found above and its pressure sterilizing now


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Re: agar question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15192940 - 10/07/11 06:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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EvilMushroom666 said:
You will be able to find these items, just get on the phone and call around.

Standard MEA Mix:

500ML water
10 Grams Agar powder
10 Grams LME

This will make enough agar for roughly 15-20 plates depending upon how
thick your pours are. You can scale the recipe up or down for more or
less agar. If you are using the agar to make slants I suggest cutting the
LME in half. Also if you are isolating for rhizomorphic growth cut the
LME down as well.



:whathesaid:

I see you know what you're talking about. I personally prefer PDYA, but that's just me.



And as already said, you can add yeast if you wish..


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Re: agar question [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15192969 - 10/07/11 06:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Iv played with MEA, and MEPA(Peptone). I have been meaning to give PDA and
PDYA a try, perhaps the next time I make plates.

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Re: agar question [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15193023 - 10/07/11 06:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I must add that I buy pre-made PDA though (I just add some yeast). I get it at a fairly good price.
Boiling those potatos is just such a PITA... :nonono:


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Re: agar question [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15193841 - 10/07/11 10:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Where do you get peptone from EM? looks pricey online

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Re: agar question [Re: deadmandave]
    #15194265 - 10/08/11 12:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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deadmandave said:
Where do you get peptone from EM? looks pricey online




A friend sent me an ounce of soy peptone months and months back, not sure
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