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OfflineSyntheticwords
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Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out!
    #15191055 - 10/07/11 10:37 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The picture says it all.




the cake still producing healthy fruits. what should I do? toss MY ONLY cake out? lmao

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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: Syntheticwords]
    #15191132 - 10/07/11 10:54 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

just that small spot? if so, and its your only cake..i'd fruit it till it dies off..then toss it outside


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: Syntheticwords]
    #15191140 - 10/07/11 10:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

when in doubt, throw it out.
Im no expert and generally that makes me more cautious than others.

Though you may not be able to see it, there are tons of spores on your "healthy fruits". Not something i generally find sexy when consuming foods.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: Fungi_Fox]
    #15191174 - 10/07/11 11:05 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Take a q tip and rub it on the green/blue part of the cake. If the color comes off on the q-tip then it's a contam. If it does not, it is only a bruise. Looks to me like a bruise from you handling the cake.

Actually after looking at it again, it may be a contam. Just do the qtip test and let us know.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: SoManyRoads]
    #15191204 - 10/07/11 11:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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SoManyRoads said:
Take a q tip and rub it on the green/blue part of the cake. If the color comes off on the q-tip then it's a contam. If it does not, it is only a bruise. Looks to me like a bruise from you handling the cake.





Outdated information bro :thumbup: This has been proven to be false, Bruising on a cake will often rub off on a Q-Tip also.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #15191887 - 10/07/11 02:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Well how can you tell then? The bruises on my cakes are the same color as the ones on my fruits.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: SoManyRoads]
    #15191926 - 10/07/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

looks like trich to me.  :justdontknow:  could be wrong though. I always try to do more than one cake for this reason.  good luck on the rest of your grow, man! :mushroomgrow:


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: creationdivine]
    #15191962 - 10/07/11 02:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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creationdivine said:
looks like trich to me.  :justdontknow:  could be wrong though. I always try to do more than one cake for this reason.  good luck on the rest of your grow, man! :mushroomgrow:




What's a sure way to tell for sure?


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: SoManyRoads]
    #15192189 - 10/07/11 03:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

give it a poke.  Is it squishy?  That's how I usually determine trich aside from the unmistakable green mold.  I've tried cutting it out/off before, but without success.  how did you inoculate?  multispore?


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: creationdivine]
    #15192393 - 10/07/11 04:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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give it a poke.  Is it squishy?  That's how I usually determine trich aside from the unmistakable green mold.  I've tried cutting it out/off before, but without success.  how did you inoculate?  multispore?



What would an MS inoculation have to do with his cake getting trich this far along?

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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: The Influence] * 1
    #15192424 - 10/07/11 04:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like trich. I would not toss it. It's not a toxic mold, so there won't be any problem with the fruit.

Just clean up a bit when you're done. Maybe bleach bomb the air. I don't think it's really a big deal unless you're into agar or G2G. Needles aren't very exposed. I've had so much moldy food in my room/house over the years. It won't kill you, just clean up after it happens. You said it's your only cake, so it's not like it's going to spread to your other projects.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: The Influence]
    #15192981 - 10/07/11 06:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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creationdivine said:
give it a poke.  Is it squishy?  That's how I usually determine trich aside from the unmistakable green mold.  I've tried cutting it out/off before, but without success.  how did you inoculate?  multispore?



What would an MS inoculation have to do with his cake getting trich this far along?




I was thinking maybe if he went from print to syringe there might have been a contaminant on the spores.  I've had pins form in jars alongside trich when doing MS :shrug:


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: SoManyRoads]
    #15192986 - 10/07/11 06:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Take a q tip and rub it on the green/blue part of the cake. If the color comes off on the q-tip then it's a contam. If it does not, it is only a bruise. Looks to me like a bruise from you handling the cake.

Actually after looking at it again, it may be a contam. Just do the qtip test and let us know.




Dude, that totally looks like trichoderma. This does not even look close to bruising.
:shrug:

Why are you only doing one cake? I mean, it's not like being on the safe side.

I usually throw anything away that's contaminated with the green. But I guess, if you're desperate you can try to continue fruiting it.
For me, it would not be worth the effort of cleaning everything and knowing that it might do harm to my future projects.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: creationdivine]
    #15193049 - 10/07/11 06:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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creationdivine said:
give it a poke.  Is it squishy?  That's how I usually determine trich aside from the unmistakable green mold.  I've tried cutting it out/off before, but without success.  how did you inoculate?  multispore?



What would an MS inoculation have to do with his cake getting trich this far along?




I was thinking maybe if he went from print to syringe there might have been a contaminant on the spores.  I've had pins form in jars alongside trich when doing MS :shrug:



Well even buying a syringe would be MS, and if it was a contaminated syringe/print I think it would be more prevelant during the colonization stage? Maybe if this were the case the endospores didn't germinate until birthed but I doubt it :shrug: But thats only my train of thought I am no expert.

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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15193050 - 10/07/11 06:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It does look like one of the Trichoderma genuses.

Quarantine that immediately and take it outside. You can eat the fruits from that cake since trich isn't harmful to humans. But I wouldn't keep that in your house. You're just asking for it to spread throughout your house and contaminate future grows.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: The Influence]
    #15193061 - 10/07/11 06:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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creationdivine said:
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The Influence said:
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creationdivine said:
give it a poke.  Is it squishy?  That's how I usually determine trich aside from the unmistakable green mold.  I've tried cutting it out/off before, but without success.  how did you inoculate?  multispore?



What would an MS inoculation have to do with his cake getting trich this far along?




I was thinking maybe if he went from print to syringe there might have been a contaminant on the spores.  I've had pins form in jars alongside trich when doing MS :shrug:



Well even buying a syringe would be MS, and if it was a contaminated syringe/print I think it would be more prevelant during the colonization stage? Maybe if this were the case the endospores didn't germinate until birthed but I doubt it :shrug: But thats only my train of thought I am no expert.




If the syringe was the culprit then it would have contaminated while still in the jar. Most likely it is in his grow room or it dropped off his clothes or something after he picked it up somewhere else.

Now that it has turned green there is a chance that its already airborne in the room


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: Wing]
    #15193139 - 10/07/11 07:18 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

When I see contams from a syringe, they usually seem to happen early and form under the tape where they were inoculated. I've seen that with bacteria and mold. When that happens, I might see 1 or 2 inoculation points not produce any myc. With a really bad syringe, everything is 100% ruined

I would guess for that this cake that not enough time was given to allow it to consolidate, or the surface got dry and weakened the mycelium.

Again, don't toss. Just clean up when you're done.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: SoManyRoads]
    #15193609 - 10/07/11 09:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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creationdivine said:
looks like trich to me.  :justdontknow:  could be wrong though. I always try to do more than one cake for this reason.  good luck on the rest of your grow, man! :mushroomgrow:




What's a sure way to tell for sure?




with a microscope or some testing with agar dishes but for mold
its a waste if you want mushrooms

with time youll even learn how to spot it before it pewks greens spores all over , it just looks and moves differently than the rest of the substrate :shrug:


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #15193987 - 10/07/11 10:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

can he clean that with alcohol or peroxide and a q tip? you did say it was harmless but like others have said its going air-born so would that slow the spread of it or would it damage the cake

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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: infamouscube]
    #15194003 - 10/07/11 11:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Generally that hurts the mycelium as much as the mold, and helps to spread the mold around. Imo it's best to put it in conditions that do not suit mold well: lots of FAE, lots of light, and colder temps will hurt the mold more than the mushrooms.


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Re: Green Mold on pins?? Help a shroomer out! [Re: infamouscube]
    #15194013 - 10/07/11 11:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

A thick layer of salt paste is the only thing recommended for slowing the spread of trick. It won't kill it. Once it goes airborne you should do a thorough cleaning of your room because its spreading every time the air is stirred up.

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Use a 1:10 ratio of laundry bleach to water.  After mixing, add the same amount of vinegar that you used in bleach.  Spray this into the air and on all the surfaces.  It's not a cure for having released billions of trich spores into the air, but it's about all you can do.
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That's how you kill spores. Unfortunately you can't spray that on your mycelium without killing it.


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