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A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives
    #1518860 - 05/04/03 02:21 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: World Spirit]
    #1518902 - 05/04/03 03:09 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

What about the tens of thousands of African babies starving to death and dying of disease who have never heard of Christianity? God wants them to go to hell? Poor babies.


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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: bert]
    #1518911 - 05/04/03 03:15 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

No, they don't go to hell. Christians invented this place called "limbo" where people who have never heard of God go when they die.... what a copout.

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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1518917 - 05/04/03 03:21 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Which begs the question, why did God create all these souls if he knew they'd only go back into limbo? Why would God create millions of people just to suffer? Karma?


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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: bert]
    #1518922 - 05/04/03 03:25 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

"God works in mysterious ways" <<< another copout.

I don't know why God does these things... maybe He doesn't like African babies since they seem to always get the short end of the stick.

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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1518957 - 05/04/03 04:48 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Hell is a place where God is not. God is pure unconditional Love. God is also within you, if you do not find God within yourself you are in hell.
Sinners stay in hell because they can not see through their sins to God. You can not see Love with hate or anger. Didn't Jesus Christ say the kingdom is within?
You don't have to wait until you die to find heaven, it's here on earth.


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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: Sole_Worthy]
    #1518959 - 05/04/03 04:53 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I dig what you're saying... Heaven isn't a place. It's the state of knowing God.

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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: bert]
    #1519038 - 05/04/03 07:27 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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What about the tens of thousands of African babies starving to death




WHAT ABOUT THEM

If you can't provide for the family why give birth? And not just to one or two but to 10 kids? So that later i would get charities at my door asking to help them, so that they would give births to another dozens of little ones and so on and so on



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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: cleaner]
    #1519128 - 05/04/03 09:20 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

This is what I have been thinking about:

your mind = god

heaven = your mind

If your mind is strong enough- i.e. you have a "good soul". And you believe in some sort of an afterlife, then when you die, your consciousness lives on outside the physical world (perhaps the fourth deminsion or something). Heaven is the world that your consciousness creates outside the physical world, therefore you are in a place of your own imagination and it is very real to you because nothing has physical boundaries anymore, including you. If you believe there is no heaven, then there will be none for you because it is not a place that is there, it is a place that YOU make, and if you do not make it, it wont be there for you. The mind is an EXTREMELY powerful thing for the one who has it and no other. What you create with your mind's eye is merely a glimpse of what is to come when you are free from the body and the only judgement that is made is the one you make for yourself.


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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: cleaner]
    #1519449 - 05/04/03 12:58 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Cleaner, people in the 3rd world nations have large amounts of children in order to farm their land. It is the only way for them to secure their genetic lineage. If they only 'had one or two children' as you're saying, the whole family would die within a few seasons. Why don't you go out there and tell them to their face that they should just give up and die? They also obviously aren't educated enough to know about overpopulation in the world. So I'll ask it again. God: What about the tens of thousands of starving African Babies?


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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: infidelGOD]
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Re: A Note About Eternal Life & Alternatives [Re: Sole_Worthy]
    #1519780 - 05/04/03 03:59 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Hell is a place where God is not. God is pure unconditional Love. God is also within you, if you do not find God within yourself you are in hell.

This is true.  :wink:


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What if all the world you think you know,
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