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Proper preservation of potency
    #15179947 - 10/05/11 05:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I've had some difficulty I think keeping my crop potent, and I've learned here that the handbook I bought doesn't have the best info.  I'm still not clear on the dos and don'ts of preserving dried mushrooms.  I read something about "zippered freezer bags" and "heat- sealed food storage bags", but I don't really have a clue about the difference between those and ziplocs.  I also read something about dessicants, but I don't know what the context was.  What I've done was to put them in small ziploc bags and keep them towards the back of the fridge.  I think they might have lost potency also when I took some out to use, laid them on the counter and then put them back in the bag (a careless mistake, I figure).  I've read that the best place is in the fridge, but in different places that its the freezer.  Can anyone tell me the best methods of preserving potency, and if I do it right how long I can expect the potency to last?

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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: S.T.E]
    #15179951 - 10/05/11 05:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Dehydrator, or get some Damp-Rid and make a Damp-Rid Chamber. Dries them cracker dry :thumbup: Putting them in a Plastic sealed zip-lock bag can lead to them molding. If you must keep in the fridge place them in a paper bag. And they only stay good so long if there not dried. My dried ones usually stay good for 6 months or so. I've had some last longer. Seeing how I only grow them for personal use. Treat them as what they are, food. They will only last so long in the fridge.


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #15179988 - 10/05/11 05:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Can anyone tell me the best methods of preserving potency, and if I do it right how long I can expect the potency to last?




I like to cap em with a "cap em quick" then fill bottles to freeze or fill a jam jar, shrink wrap, into carrier bag, bury undgerground, last for years this way.


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: FractalXplora]
    #15180350 - 10/05/11 08:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: S.T.E]
    #15185702 - 10/06/11 09:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

To be clear:  I've used a food dehydrator, I'm looking for the best ways to store dried shrooms to avoid potency loss, because thats what happened with my current crop.  Is there a better place than the fridge to store them?  Is it true that a jam jar or such sealed container is better than a ziploc bag for keeping dried shrooms?

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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: S.T.E]
    #15185706 - 10/06/11 09:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

you should fan or desiccant dry them. the heat from the food dehydrator could be responsible for your potency loss.

when you fan or use desiccant then you avoid burning off your active ingredients


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15185954 - 10/06/11 11:06 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what does "Desiccant dry" mean?  I have some desiccants I can put in the container with the dried mushrooms, but I don't know what is the best container for them: a specialized bag, glass jar, or something else.  I think my mushrooms lost what potency they had after drying, due to being exposed to some moisture in the fridge.  Thats my best guess, because some had the expected effect, then later they lost it.

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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: S.T.E]
    #15185991 - 10/06/11 11:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

use silica gel in a sealed container with your mushrooms wrapped in paper towel or something so the dont touch
the silica will suck the moisture out.

or theres this stuff called damprid. i hear it works good too.

its true that you lose some potency from drying on account of one of the actives in the mushroom oxygenates when it is picked and thus is lost to the air. but it does leave a cool bluing effect.


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: jimmyjame1]
    #15186127 - 10/06/11 11:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

is it ok to semi hijack this?

I know people who put spare mushies in honey, and have kept it over a year (not sure on any potency loss, but they swear by it)


and also, storing it in Tequila seems very popular

does anyone have any experience with these methods?


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: keeno]
    #15186657 - 10/06/11 01:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If you are concerned about potency you could always do an ethanol extraction and store it as a liquid. Consume as an alcohol or evap off the alcohol and consume the crystals. But if you want to go the crystal route it has to be consumed fairly quickly because crystals break down incredibly fast.


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: DynGBreeD]
    #15186803 - 10/06/11 02:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Dehydrator, or get some Damp-Rid and make a Damp-Rid Chamber. Dries them cracker dry :thumbup: Putting them in a Plastic sealed zip-lock bag can lead to them molding. If you must keep in the fridge place them in a paper bag. And they only stay good so long if there not dried. My dried ones usually stay good for 6 months or so. I've had some last longer. Seeing how I only grow them for personal use. Treat them as what they are, food. They will only last so long in the fridge.




Once they are dry, how and where do you store them?

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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: keeno]
    #15186966 - 10/06/11 02:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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is it ok to semi hijack this?

I know people who put spare mushies in honey, and have kept it over a year (not sure on any potency loss, but they swear by it)


and also, storing it in Tequila seems very popular

does anyone have any experience with these methods?





I can verify keeping them in honey cracker dry is a great way to store them for any length of period within reason.When you get ready just pluck sum out and there ready to go.mmmmmmgood hope this helps.


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: irishdixie]
    #15187058 - 10/06/11 03:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

nice one Dixie :smile:


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Re: Proper preservation of potency [Re: keeno]
    #15187118 - 10/06/11 03:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

how im going to do mine
1. fan dry twoish days
2. damprid chamber / and my personal specimens will go into a chamber with a special drieite tube from mcosupply
3. when cracker dry is achieved move to mason jar (giant pickle size with as many obtained silica packs as i can get) screen more screening(the kind from a screen door) place mushies in seal wrap in shirt stick in cool dark spot (closet)

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