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thanks buddy, ya i love those too! one of my favorites around here!!

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landsnorkler said:
The graveyard guys look like a Gymnopus sp.
10.  Gymnopus acervatus
11.  Maybe Tricholoma, what color were the gills?
13.  Artomyces pyxidatus
14.  Cort
17.  Russula

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yes Gymnopus actually makes sense, good one!and 10 as well , man there are alot of different Gymnopus species here.


i was considering Trich for 11 as well, but the fibrous cap made me think Inocybe. the gills were a yellowish color.

so Artomyces pyxidatus for 13 eh ? mushroom expert says they are absent or very very rare in the westcoast. cool find then

i was thinking something other than russula for 17 since it had yellow gills and a lilac stipe.
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Bobzimmer said:
Nice blue mushrooms!
3 I'd call it a Crep from what I can see.
5 Pluteus. I wouldn't call it cervinus off hand.
14 Cortinarius
17 Russula
22 Cool Panaeolus. What's the habitat? Any more?

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thanks Bob!!
why wouldnt you call them cervinus??they get big up here i think! but i will look into that.

ya i thouht it was a cool pan too. i did print it. i have a bunch of prints to send out for microscopy, these will be one of them.
it was growing solitary in a patch of grass along a lake with C cyanopus and those Hygrocybes.

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psylosymonreturns said:
i dont think it was a Russula. it was growing in grass at a highway rest stop. not the right habitat for a mychrozial species.

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Interesting species, especially the graveyard shroom!       

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34 looks like Hebeloma crustuliniforme

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thanks man! i have been finding alot of cool Leptonias lately.

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bloodworm said:
awesome stuff psylo.

were the pans growing out of dung or grass? what kind of dung if so?




peace and love
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Awesome finds, fungal wonderland!

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bloodworm said:
awesome stuff psylo.

were the pans growing out of dung or grass? what kind of dung if so?

got a gill shot of the unidentified??




peace and love
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thanks blood! this was a huge field grazed by cows, there was literally thousands of Stropharia semiglobattas growing everywhere so there must have been shit everywhere . i dont know for sure 100 % if the unknown Pans were from dung, but odds are they were seeing how many other dung lovers were growing around and th amount of shit that was around.

there is a gill shot already there, the 3rd pic .

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awesome stuff psylo.

were the pans growing out of dung or grass? what kind of dung if so?




peace and love
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Grass, I believe.

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there could have easily been dung under the grass.
i am going back there in a few hours so hopefully there will be more.
i did make a few nice prints and i dried the 2 specimens for the scope too. i just have to send them out, i have a few Pan prints that need confirmation this season!!

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not so sure that this is conica.
it is lacking the blue/black bruising and conical cap.
just my 2 cents.
unless it bruised later...

39 look like Panaeolus fimicola to me.

CAP 10-40 mm, campanulate to convex, brownish gray when moist, drying a yellowish gray, encircling brown ring near the margin, sometimes with a lighter ring within, darker when wet, smooth, margin scalloped. GILLS gray, becoming mottled and darkening as spores mature, adnate, close, edge white. STEM 40-50 mm x 2-4 mm, straight and equal, hollow, soft and fragile, dingy white, lighter near the top, brown as it ages, smooth, top half covered with a white powder, apex striate, base somewhat enlarged. HABIT and HABITAT solitary to scattered in soil or dung, sometimes found in well-fertilized lawns and/or grassy places in woods, late spring to mid-fall. REMARKS P. acuminatus, P. foenisecii and P. subbalteatus are other species that may have a dark marginal band. P. acuminatus would key here if solitary on dung.


peace and love
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you can see the very tip of the nipple is going black i think. i didnt really think about them being something else. maybe H miniata ?

i originally thought 39 was P fimicola as well! they are very strong and robust . but others think P olivaceus. we will see soon when i get all of my Pan prints sent out!! P fimicola would be a sweet one to have off the list tho, as i already got P olivaceus off my list earlier this season!

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Beautiful stuff man. Looks like October has been good to you so far

I am not sure that any of the ones you labeled Amanita muscaria are correct though At least not the middle one for sure.

Hopefully those others come through as Psilocybe fimicola. That would be badass

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Amanita muscaria is highly variable here in the PNW and all the variations have different names which i dont know. they can be red,orange, yellow and even white!!

ya hopefully they turn out to be Panaeolus( not psilocybe ) fimicola. i love the rarely seen specimens! going out to the spot now, so i hope to find more!!

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maynard, i forgot to thank you for that man!! sometimes even boring imposters like Stropharia semiglobatta can be appreciated once in a while!

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ya hopefully they turn out to be Panaeolus( not psilocybe ) fimicola. i love the rarely seen specimens!

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D'oh!

Confused it with Psilocybe fimetaria, lol.



The reason I brought up the A. muscaria thing is because the middle photo has a collar on the bulb, and no shaggy zones on the stem. Maybe it's just an old fogey though.

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39 look like Panaeolus fimicola to me.

CAP 10-40 mm, campanulate to convex, brownish gray when moist, drying a yellowish gray, encircling brown ring near the margin, sometimes with a lighter ring within, darker when wet, smooth, margin scalloped. GILLS gray, becoming mottled and darkening as spores mature, adnate, close, edge white. STEM 40-50 mm x 2-4 mm, straight and equal, hollow, soft and fragile, dingy white, lighter near the top, brown as it ages, smooth, top half covered with a white powder, apex striate, base somewhat enlarged. HABIT and HABITAT solitary to scattered in soil or dung, sometimes found in well-fertilized lawns and/or grassy places in woods, late spring to mid-fall. REMARKS P. acuminatus, P. foenisecii and P. subbalteatus are other species that may have a dark marginal band. P. acuminatus would key here if solitary on dung.


peace and love
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I'm thiking 22 is more like P. fimicola while 39 is more like olivaceus.  Note how much more dull the coloration on 22 is compared to 39. This is what leads me to think the distinction.

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there could have easily been dung under the grass.
i am going back there in a few hours so hopefully there will be more.
i did make a few nice prints and i dried the 2 specimens for the scope too. i just have to send them out, i have a few Pan prints that need confirmation this season!!

thanks for looking everyone.

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True that! My gut tells me that they're growing from the fertilized soil 'cause I think you would see at least one growing on the dung aboveground with the Strophara.

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39 look like Panaeolus fimicola to me.

CAP 10-40 mm, campanulate to convex, brownish gray when moist, drying a yellowish gray, encircling brown ring near the margin, sometimes with a lighter ring within, darker when wet, smooth, margin scalloped. GILLS gray, becoming mottled and darkening as spores mature, adnate, close, edge white. STEM 40-50 mm x 2-4 mm, straight and equal, hollow, soft and fragile, dingy white, lighter near the top, brown as it ages, smooth, top half covered with a white powder, apex striate, base somewhat enlarged. HABIT and HABITAT solitary to scattered in soil or dung, sometimes found in well-fertilized lawns and/or grassy places in woods, late spring to mid-fall. REMARKS P. acuminatus, P. foenisecii and P. subbalteatus are other species that may have a dark marginal band. P. acuminatus would key here if solitary on dung.


peace and love
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I'm thiking 22 is more like P. fimicola while 39 is more like olivaceus.  Note how much more dull the coloration on 22 is compared to 39. This is what leads me to think the distinction.

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there could have easily been dung under the grass.
i am going back there in a few hours so hopefully there will be more.
i did make a few nice prints and i dried the 2 specimens for the scope too. i just have to send them out, i have a few Pan prints that need confirmation this season!!

thanks for looking everyone.

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True that! My gut tells me that they're growing from the fertilized soil 'cause I think you would see at least one growing on the dung aboveground with the Strophara.

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the Stropharias are just growing through the grass too. there is just shit eery where under the grass i think.

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39 look like Panaeolus fimicola to me.

CAP 10-40 mm, campanulate to convex, brownish gray when moist, drying a yellowish gray, encircling brown ring near the margin, sometimes with a lighter ring within, darker when wet, smooth, margin scalloped. GILLS gray, becoming mottled and darkening as spores mature, adnate, close, edge white. STEM 40-50 mm x 2-4 mm, straight and equal, hollow, soft and fragile, dingy white, lighter near the top, brown as it ages, smooth, top half covered with a white powder, apex striate, base somewhat enlarged. HABIT and HABITAT solitary to scattered in soil or dung, sometimes found in well-fertilized lawns and/or grassy places in woods, late spring to mid-fall. REMARKS P. acuminatus, P. foenisecii and P. subbalteatus are other species that may have a dark marginal band. P. acuminatus would key here if solitary on dung.


peace and love
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I'm thiking 22 is more like P. fimicola while 39 is more like olivaceus.  Note how much more dull the coloration on 22 is compared to 39. This is what leads me to think the distinction.

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there could have easily been dung under the grass.
i am going back there in a few hours so hopefully there will be more.
i did make a few nice prints and i dried the 2 specimens for the scope too. i just have to send them out, i have a few Pan prints that need confirmation this season!!

thanks for looking everyone.

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True that! My gut tells me that they're growing from the fertilized soil 'cause I think you would see at least one growing on the dung aboveground with the Strophara.

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the Stropharias are just growing through the grass too. there is just shit eery where under the grass i think.

and i forgot all about 22!! that one i think is P fimicola for sure.thanks so much fux! the work is uploading all the fuckin pictures!!

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I heard that! That and organizing the damn things is where the difficulty lays. I remember the amount of work it took to organize those oliavceus I found. It got to the point that if I hadn't labeled them all I would have mixed 'em all up.

Also, thanks for correcting me on the habitat. Perhaps the Pans I found were growing on shit and I just assumed it was soil, too.
You learn something new everyday.

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inski said:
The genus Leptonia is synonymous with Entoloma and should only be considered a subgenus, all microscopic characters are in agreement with Entoloma, species in this subgenus commonly show fruit bodies with an umbilicate pileus and an incurved margin in young specimens, fruit bodies with blue or green pigments are fairly common, I would call this collection an Entoloma species.

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The genus Leptonia is synonymous with Entoloma and should only be considered a subgenus, all microscopic characters are in agreement with Entoloma, species in this subgenus commonly show fruit bodies with an umbilicate pileus and an incurved margin in young specimens, fruit bodies with blue or green pigments are fairly common, I would call this collection an Entoloma species.

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The genus Leptonia is synonymous with Entoloma and should only be considered a subgenus, all microscopic characters are in agreement with Entoloma, species in this subgenus commonly show fruit bodies with an umbilicate pileus and an incurved margin in young specimens, fruit bodies with blue or green pigments are fairly common, I would call this collection an Entoloma species.

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I would call them all Entoloma species, I don't really agree with the separation and think all species of Leptonia, Eccilia, Pouzarella, Alboleptonia, Inocephalus, Nolanea and Claudopus should be included in Entoloma until further study is done, especially DNA sequencing, some may disagree!!

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The genus Leptonia is synonymous with Entoloma and should only be considered a subgenus, all microscopic characters are in agreement with Entoloma, species in this subgenus commonly show fruit bodies with an umbilicate pileus and an incurved margin in young specimens, fruit bodies with blue or green pigments are fairly common, I would call this collection an Entoloma species.

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I would call them all Entoloma species, I don't really agree with the separation and think all species of Leptonia, Eccilia, Pouzarella, Alboleptonia, Inocephalus, Nolanea and Claudopus should be included in Entoloma until further study is done, especially DNA sequencing, some may disagree!!

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Well, yes, I guess it could be a bit confusing, they all have pinkish spores that are angular in all views and a very similar pileipellis structure, most of the characteristics that have been used to separate these genera in the past are macroscopic, this is the reason I believe DNA sequencing will show that most of the species in these groups are much more closely related than previously thought, some will be proven to deserve generic status, most will be proven to belong in Entoloma.

Bloodworm, I am referring to these specimens that were identified as Leptonia species.

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yes those are the 3. I only called them that because last year i found the species in the first pic, and Alan id'd it as a Leptonia. So if we call them Entolomas thats just fine too, but the name difference is between you 2! i am cool either way.

i just love finding them , they are beautiful.