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Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them?
    #15182072 - 10/05/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hello, Recently I found a whole bunch of subbs in cow dung when I went to my brother in laws, I was wondering if i can find subbs in horse dung other than cow dung because I live right next to a whole bunch of horses. Also. I need some information on how too dry these and how to preserve them. Also, how many should i eat? I weigh 115 pounds and am 5.5. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: speediestsnail]
    #15183676 - 10/05/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Subs don't grow on cow dung, as far as I know. Least never seen them myself...
They do grow on horse dung... Or horse mature fertilized sod... New grass areas

If you post a picture, and do a spore print, can iD it
They are very weak... Very. 6-10 gm dry weight would be a start


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: HarryL]
    #15183728 - 10/05/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Wikipedia said:
Panaeolus cinctulus is a cosmopolitan species that grows solitary to gregarious to cespitose on compost piles, well-fertilized lawns and gardens, and rarely directly on horse dung





Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus_cinctulus

HarryL is right though, post a pic and take a print to confirm. dont eat them until you get an ID on this site


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: HarryL]
    #15183750 - 10/05/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

As for drying method, this is the one i use and it works very well for very low cost. it does take 24 hours though. i usually use a wife-beater type shirt (black A-shirt) and 2 clip up reflector dishes with 60 Watt bulbs all of these materials can be bought from walmart for less then $20

from www.shroomery.org/6253/Cheap-and-Easy-Drying-Without-Desiccant
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I have listened to all the ranting about what temperatures are to be avoided and how long it takes to dry in a desiccant box. I've got one heck of a nice and quick way to dry shrooms without hurting the content of the alkaloids by any appreciable amount!

You need the following things: a black T-shirt, a "clip up" work lite with a reflector dish (available for around six dollars at most good hardware stores) and 60 watt bulb, and some paper towels.

Take your guys and lay them out on paper towels (you only need to use one layer of towels). Next take the black T-shirt and place it on top of the 'shrooms (black is used because it transfers the heat from the bulb better than other colors, plus it keeps light from possibly degrading the alkaloids). Now clip the light fixture on any handy object so that the reflector is about 18-24 inches from the T-shirt. Turn that puppy on and in 24 hours or so you will have cracker-dry shroomies!!!

I dry around 50 fat Amazonians at a time with this method, and never could tell any difference between fresh or dried potency (taking into account 90% weight reduction for the water loss of dried shrooms)!




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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: xAbsolut Zero]
    #15183762 - 10/05/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: HarryL]
    #15183787 - 10/05/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Don't believe everything on wiki

http://www.shroomery.org/9473/Panaeolus-subbalteatus




i am aware that wikipedia sometimes contains un-reliable information, especially with mycology related stuff, but the info on habitat is almost identical to the info here on the shroomery, so i just linked to that instead.


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: HarryL]
    #15185148 - 10/06/11 06:58 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Are you sure? because on like everywebsite they say cow dung and i cant find one that says horse dung. Does it Or does it not?


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: speediestsnail]
    #15185278 - 10/06/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have found subbs on cow and horse dung. Also on lawns.

As to how many you should eat, idk. They vary alot, mild to basicly non active. I normaly eat 60 subbs for a decent time


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: Locky]
    #15185542 - 10/06/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Suppose cow dung is possible, just never seen it...
Seen non active Pans on cow dung plenty

Take it for what it's worth
Not many pans are active and mis-identification is pretty common


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? (moved) [Re: speediestsnail]
    #15185871 - 10/06/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Psychedelic Experience.

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Wrong forum.


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? (moved) [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15185896 - 10/06/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Finding them growing in manure piles with cow dung is highly possible!
The pile can not be to fresh either, there has to be some at least 2year old manure in there preferably.


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: HarryL]
    #15185977 - 10/06/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Suppose cow dung is possible, just never seen it...
Seen non active Pans on cow dung plenty

Take it for what it's worth
Not many pans are active and mis-identification is pretty common



pan/cyans grow on cow and horse dung


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: Madcaps]
    #15186086 - 10/06/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

This is about Pan Cinctulus Not pan cyan

Just an FYI

http://www.impakt.net/%7Etyler/subbs/index.htm


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Re: Does panaeolus cinctulus\subbalteatus grow in horse dung? And how do i dry and preserve them? [Re: HarryL]
    #15186564 - 10/06/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Preservation and propogation:  Why not make spore prints; and knock loose some spores onto agar and have a mycelium party?

Once it gets roudy cut it out and isolate them strong rhizomorphic strains and clean em up to finally nocc up some jars, then tubs?

:mushroom2:

Anhydrous Magnesium sulfate can be used to desiccate the fruit-bodies; it is easily created by cooking Epsom salt in the oven.

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3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.


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