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chefbreezy
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is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints?
#15181634 - 10/05/11 02:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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just wondering if i should save these for some reason. and whats the best way to preserve them if so?
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: chefbreezy]
#15182259 - 10/05/11 04:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should shoot me a and let me bargain for some dry ones lol
Other then that no not really. They are almost impossible to cultivate.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15182264 - 10/05/11 04:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Might look cool in some picture frames though with some pictures of the ones before you harvest them?
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15182353 - 10/05/11 05:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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cant those kill you?
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pickeroo
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: brand0n]
#15182365 - 10/05/11 05:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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brand0n said: cant those kill you?
They are toxic, yeah. They're not like arsenic or anything, just be careful with your dosage. The same can be said of most drugs.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: brand0n]
#15182367 - 10/05/11 05:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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brand0n said: cant those kill you?
They can if you overdose, thats at about 15 caps or so. I've eaten them many times. Its good fun
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15182372 - 10/05/11 05:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmm maybe I should give them a whirl then. Could you compare them with anything I might all ready know (all the general cubes and stones)
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: brand0n]
#15182385 - 10/05/11 05:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah bro, its in a whole different ball park. They come close to some Datura seeds that I have
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15182401 - 10/05/11 05:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Really.. Well that changes everything. So yes, thats a good reason to save those prints, send me one lol
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: brand0n]
#15182421 - 10/05/11 05:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Whats neat about amanita muscaria is that its ecology is mycorrhizal, which means the mycelium grows amongst the roots of a tree and forms a mutually beneficial relationship with the tree. Its like in avatar, lol. The mycelium retains lots of water and passes it off to the tree roots, thus extending the roots' reach by many times. The tree takes nutes photosynthesised in its leaves and sends it down the line through the roots to the mycelium. cool stuff.
however, the actives in this are a deleriant, and consumption for recreational use, well I just wouldn't recommend. It can be very dangerous, as you will lose control of your body, and you can easily injure yourself.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15182424 - 10/05/11 05:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wikipedia:
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The deliriants (or anticholinergics) are a special class of acetylcholine-inhibitor hallucinogen. The term was introduced by David F. Duncan and Robert S. Gold to distinguish these drugs from psychedelics, such as LSD, due to their primary effect being one of inducing a medical state of frank delirium.
Effects
The delirium produced is characterized by stupor, utter confusion, confabulation, and regression to "phantom" behaviors such as disrobing and plucking. Other commonly reported behaviors include holding full and lifelike conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering you had not even begun yet, and being unable to recognize one's own reflection in a mirror.
The effects have been likened to sleepwalking, a fugue state or a psychotic episode (particularly in that the subject has minimal control over their actions and little to no recall of the experience). This is a notable departure from typical hallucinogens.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: brand0n]
#15182434 - 10/05/11 05:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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that datura stuff aint no joke! my buddy ate that stuff and went crazy for a few hours! strait hallucinations, talking to people and seeing things that werent there. from what i hear its pretty dangerous stuff.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: pickeroo]
#15182466 - 10/05/11 05:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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pickeroo said: Wikipedia:
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The deliriants (or anticholinergics) are a special class of acetylcholine-inhibitor hallucinogen. The term was introduced by David F. Duncan and Robert S. Gold to distinguish these drugs from psychedelics, such as LSD, due to their primary effect being one of inducing a medical state of frank delirium.
Effects
The delirium produced is characterized by stupor, utter confusion, confabulation, and regression to "phantom" behaviors such as disrobing and plucking. Other commonly reported behaviors include holding full and lifelike conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering you had not even begun yet, and being unable to recognize one's own reflection in a mirror.
The effects have been likened to sleepwalking, a fugue state or a psychotic episode (particularly in that the subject has minimal control over their actions and little to no recall of the experience). This is a notable departure from typical hallucinogens.
geeeez, that sounds ridiculous!
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pickeroo
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: pickeroo]
#15182474 - 10/05/11 05:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I wouldn't do it without a sitter I trusted.
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chefbreezy
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: pickeroo]
#15182485 - 10/05/11 05:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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pickeroo said: Yeah, I wouldn't do it without a sitter I trusted.
def. not! im still a lil skeptical about it but i have friends who would jump at the chance of trying it out! haha
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: chefbreezy]
#15182891 - 10/05/11 06:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yup mycorrhizal, just like chantrelles are
"Fly Agar" it what "created" the famed Viking Berserker Some crazy fools, LOLz.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: HorizonSpawn]
#15183341 - 10/05/11 08:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like taking some Dramamine that shit sucks...
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: cloudsaregathering]
#15183348 - 10/05/11 08:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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cloudsaregathering said: Sounds like taking some Dramamine that shit sucks...
Triple C's!!!!!
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15183457 - 10/05/11 08:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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DynGBreeD said:
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cloudsaregathering said: Sounds like taking some Dramamine that shit sucks...
Triple C's!!!!!
Yeah funny you say that I just dumped my girlfriend cause she wouldn't quit doing that shit...
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: cloudsaregathering]
#15183471 - 10/05/11 08:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I eat C's all the time shoot her my way
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15183489 - 10/05/11 08:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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DynGBreeD said: I eat C's all the time shoot her my way
Gladly, give ur addy she'll be on a bus tomorrow. Oh yeah she loves to smoke about 3grams of incense with it... sorry about thread jacking...
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15183508 - 10/05/11 08:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: deadmandave]
#15183528 - 10/05/11 08:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: deadmandave]
#15183560 - 10/05/11 08:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm big on ativan and ambien. If I stay awake, I end up losing hours of my night and hear about the weirdo shit I say and do. It's like I'm on cruise control. My doctor says it's safe [/thread jack]
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: deadmandave]
#15183563 - 10/05/11 08:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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We smoke too, I'll u my addy addy
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: cloudsaregathering]
#15183569 - 10/05/11 08:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15183578 - 10/05/11 08:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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DynGBreeD said: We smoke too, I'll u my addy addy
Damn you sure your not my ex ??? She likes to fall a lot as well !!!
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: cloudsaregathering]
#15183603 - 10/05/11 08:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't fall bro Shoot her on down here
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15183609 - 10/05/11 08:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok don't get pissed at me a week later though...
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: cloudsaregathering]
#15183812 - 10/05/11 09:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Back to the Amanitas, the description of the deleriant high sounds like morning glory. That shit suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked for 5 hours!
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: Wing]
#15183826 - 10/05/11 09:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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winged_1 said: I'm big on ativan and ambien. If I stay awake, I end up losing hours of my night and hear about the weirdo shit I say and do. It's like I'm on cruise control. My doctor says it's safe [/thread jack]
+1 i took 300mg of ambien once i dont rember shit from that night but i heard some funny shit i said and done
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: kcbennie]
#15183966 - 10/05/11 10:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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kcbennie said: Back to the Amanitas, the description of the deleriant high sounds like morning glory. That shit suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked for 5 hours!
That's strange. It's cool how the active compound in morning glory seeds, LSA (d-lysergic acid amide), is very closely related to LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) yet it has such a different effect. What a difference attaching a NH2 instead of a N(C2H5)2 can have.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: kcbennie]
#15184341 - 10/05/11 11:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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kcbennie said: Back to the Amanitas, the description of the deleriant high sounds like morning glory. That shit suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked for 5 hours!
i have a ton of seeds i harvested last year and never did anything with em, there just sittin in the cabinet. my buddy ate a bunch but he wasnt too impressed, he said mostly it just made him feel like shit.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15184800 - 10/06/11 02:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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DynGBreeD said: You should shoot me a and let me bargain for some dry ones lol
Other then that no not really. They are almost impossible to cultivate.
Me too, me too! sent.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: DynGBreeD]
#15184903 - 10/06/11 03:47 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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That datura stuff aint no joke! my buddy ate that stuff and went crazy for a few hours! strait hallucinations, talking to people and seeing things that werent there. from what i hear its pretty dangerous stuff.
Amanitas are not like datura. Datura/dramamine are anticholinergics and amanitas are cholinergics, meaning they have the opposite effect. Datura has actually been used as an antidote for amanita poisoning.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: Kizzle]
#15184919 - 10/06/11 03:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: Datura has actually been used as an antidote for amanita poisoning.
This is interesting. Can you cite your source on this? Id like to read it.
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
#15185033 - 10/06/11 05:39 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't remember where I originally read it but they talk about a bit here as well as a lot of good info on both... http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rpsmith/Cholinergic_Transmission.html
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: Kizzle]
#15185100 - 10/06/11 06:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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really interesting
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Re: is there any reason to save amanita muscaria spore prints? [Re: Disgruntled_Uterus]
#15185151 - 10/06/11 07:00 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to do triple c's in high school...it didnt even come close to the "moonFlower" tea my buddy made me one time..i tore my house apart looking for a wild stack of money I had gotten from a drug deal that didnt even happen...I woke up in the middle of the night and swear i saw flruit flies crawling all over my girlfriends face..in and out of her nose...hundreds of em...but i woke her up and they wernt there...the shits nuts LOL
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