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cake slices used for inoculation
    #15174115 - 10/03/11 09:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Just wondering if i could take my cakes that are just starting to fruit (biggest one 2")cut a piece off and inoculate grain that has been fermenting for two weeks.

On a side note I don't have a wide range pH tester but the test I do have say its below 6, I have some API PH Down Aquarium pH ADJUSTER for testing curiosity.

I also have some liquid culture if anyone has tried it on fermented grain.

Comments?Ideas?

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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: afroomania]
    #15174126 - 10/03/11 09:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Shrooms to grain/LC is risky.


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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: afroomania]
    #15174133 - 10/03/11 09:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

What? Fermenting the grain?
I assume you are fermenting it in an attempt to try to sterilize it that way, i saw a tek somewhere on here about doing it that way.
You should get a pc and do the grains that way, i doubt you will have worthwhile success trying to ferment them.


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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: afroomania]
    #15174153 - 10/03/11 09:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Can you send a link, or elaborate, on the fermenting grain? I've never seen grain prepared this way... but I'm all ears since I am also a brewer. Thanks!

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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: Fungus_monk]
    #15174159 - 10/03/11 09:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

fermenting works but it is slow, wet, and stinky.  I'd avoid it.


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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: TheMackologist]
    #15174178 - 10/03/11 09:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Can you send a link, or elaborate, on the fermenting grain? I've never seen grain prepared this way... but I'm all ears since I am also a brewer. Thanks!

Cheers! :beer:
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heres the the link http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8729280

im about 2 hours away from straining the grain and going ahead with trying out the cake slices and liquid culture.

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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: TheMackologist]
    #15174191 - 10/03/11 09:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Can you send a link, or elaborate, on the fermenting grain? I've never seen grain prepared this way... but I'm all ears since I am also a brewer. Thanks!

Cheers! :beer:
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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: Fungus_monk]
    #15174510 - 10/03/11 10:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

From what I have read, it seems like a pretty new idea. It seems like people both praise and criticize the experiment. Either way it seems to have some potential, and whatever the idea may be it seems like a good one. That being said, it seems to still have some kinks to be worked out. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next year this could become a pretty fail proof way of growing. I still think it is in its early stages of experimentation. So any new grows or attempts could help out in the long run. I say go for it, and take notes often, and from every step of the way. I wouldn't expect great results, but keep in mind it could be a big help in the research of this new method. Especially with cubes.


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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15177411 - 10/04/11 05:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for links! :awethumb:

Once I am able to do some experimentation, I will give it a try!

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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: TheMackologist]
    #15182950 - 10/05/11 06:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)





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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: afroomania]
    #15183074 - 10/05/11 07:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

How come you have plastic over your jars like that?


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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: seldom seen]
    #15183241 - 10/05/11 07:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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How come you have plastic over your jars like that?




so i can see it growing and catch any contamination's right away without ever opening and exposing it.

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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: afroomania]
    #15183410 - 10/05/11 08:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I've been experimenting with 'sterilizing' grains by soaking in water with ashes from our wood stove and getting some degree of success.  If I ever get it worked out, I'll post a tek.  I can say it's a lot quicker and less stinky than fermenting.
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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #15183443 - 10/05/11 08:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

@RR: That I'm looking forward to.

I've known wood ashes to have quite a many uses with Marijuana, both with growing and cooking it.

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Re: cake slices used for inoculation [Re: Jonow]
    #15183574 - 10/05/11 08:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

What about flash freezing? Its used to store recently sterilized materials. Or even freezing for a long period of time...Say two months?

I have my dog on a raw meat diet, and when I lived on 70+ acres of land, I wanted to switch him to a game diet(rabbit,squirrel,deer,turkey,groundhog). When I asked about doing this, people told me, because animals in the wild aren't pumped full of anitbiotics and such; freezing the meat for over a month would be recommended.

I don't know if this has been tried, but would flash freezing/freezing for long periods of time give you usable sterile grain? Or at least grain that was free of harmful/unwanted contams?


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