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Milking ths pods
    #1517051 - 05/03/03 07:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

hello I have a great question


I was reading an old national geographic from 1985 !!
and in it they had a big section on poppies and I read that a armer in burma(now mayanmar, because the dictator that runs the place was losing investment as people around the world learned the horrible things that were happening !!!)

He said (in 1985) that he would milk hos poppies 5 times!
and the first milking was ok
the second was better !
the third was best !!!!
and the fourth and fifth were very poor but worth taking !


So my question is!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since when the pod is milked its in a "unripe" state , can I milk the shit out of a pod then dry it out and STILL GET SEEDS ???

or do I have to let a pod mature if I want seeds for next year ???????

and after it does (if it even has to ), could I milk that pod

I would assume that pods latex would be not runny enough for me to milk it and it might have to be turned into tea

another question that isnt nearly important is , Have any off you ever let some pods go yellow (let them grow without milking during the unripre stage)

I have heard that if you do you will get more codeine and less morphine and this might be a good thing for me because I wouldnt mind a couple weak pods along with my strong ones , Hell Codeine is the reason I wanted to grow opium in the first place , call me a geek if you want but I like codeine and I can handle it !
(in terms of being able to say NO when have to)
I dont know how hardcore morphine will be .................
not that it matters though I will never milk my pods
THATS ILLEGAL

could a yellow pod be milked or is that tea material to???

I would love to be able to milk the shit out of a pod(unripe and yellow pods)
AND get seeds still


please help me out with this long question (for some reason , other than this site much of the info on poppies seems poor)
thanks!
Cant wait till Im smoking!
p.s.(those of you that know) what do you thinkl is better smoking or eating ??
I know that eating is less addictive , I was thinking that I would eat my O rather than smoke it , as its safer and stronger(as in you need less to get high)

What do you think?


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1517835 - 05/03/03 05:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

well ive never grown poppies but have done some research at www.poppies.org anyways dont milk until it flowers. let if flower for a while and then milk it a couple times letting the wounds heal inbetween for a day or two. then you can let it dry out and get seeds and the pods can still be used for tea. although they may have diminished potency. if you make tea the stems are also good. once dry though you can no longer milk it. hope i helped. peace

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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1518274 - 05/03/03 10:18 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Codeine is just weak morphine. The only reason codeine gets you high is because ~10% of it is converted to morphine by your liver.
You might as well just harvest the opium at the usual stage and take smaller doses if you're worried.


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: zeta]
    #1518381 - 05/03/03 11:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Do'nt EVER milk your pods. It's too incriminating should the cops find your plants with scarred pods. Pod tea is the way to go.


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: Pinhead]
    #1518576 - 05/04/03 01:25 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

How much more do you get from milking than from making pod tea?


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1518705 - 05/04/03 02:52 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

actually you get more from the pod tea when smoking waste like 70% of alkaloids and when tea drinking you get all 100%. at least thats what i have heard


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: blaze2]
    #1518847 - 05/04/03 04:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

With tea you should use the whole plant, even the roots if you can get them cleaned off enough. The whole plant contains alkaloids and the roots contain a decent ammount of morphine.


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: AJ420]
    #1519680 - 05/04/03 04:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

afoaf finds that using a 18-16 gauge needle is better at getting the latex than using say a razor blade. razors do a good number on pods and they stick out like a sore thumb
just poke the pod with the tip of the needle....a drop or 2 should ooze out. harder to see from a distance.


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #1520091 - 05/04/03 08:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

In an unripe pod, there isnt much opium and the seeds aren't even viable. You're better off waiting till the petals fall from the pod, then cutting a few vertical lines close together in a few places around the pod. Use an exacto knife or a sharp needle. After that, you can let the opium ooze and react with the air, then scrape it off with something like the backside of a razor blade or I've even heard of people using a credit card to do it, but it will sometimes stick to this. You're better off just waiting till they ripen.


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: TinMan]
    #1520637 - 05/05/03 12:12 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Why wait till they've ripened? All the literature says it's taken from unripe pods and even mass producing countries take the sap from unripe pods.

Any references to cite taking from ripe pods? I'd be interesed in seeing it, especially if it has some data and explanations as to why this is better.


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: Pinhead]
    #1521089 - 05/05/03 03:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Do'nt EVER milk your pods. It's too incriminating should the cops find your plants with scarred pods. Pod tea is the way to go.
 




I would NEVER  :laugh:

and even if I did :wink:  I live in BC  Canada in a small twon and I am not to worried about ANYTHING that happens in my own back yard , not that I wouldnt shit myself if my neighbors called the cops on me and they show up and I am sitting under a tree in my back yard meditating while I wait for the latex to dry  :laugh: 


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Re: Milking ths pods [Re: zeta]
    #1521092 - 05/05/03 03:33 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Codeine is just weak morphine. The only reason codeine gets you high is because ~10% of it is converted to morphine by your liver.
You might as well just harvest the opium at the usual stage and take smaller doses if you're worried.




TRUE ...........
But Codeine is absorbed by the body better is it not ? although I have heard Codeine called methly-morphine and I guess the reason morphine is listed as SO MUCH more addictive it because it is stronger ?


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