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OfflineBillyBroadway
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10 Half Pint PF jars.
    #15169227 - 10/02/11 09:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Guys,

So i will be knocking up 10 half pint jars using the PF method but due to no credit card so i cant order it online and the closest Whole Foods being 30 minutes away i will be substituting Dark Rye Flour for the Brown Rice Flour. I half been reading that you can take the cakes and use them to spawn bulk substrate. Since Space will be an issue im thinking of trying out something like this
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Behold, the Mini-Monotub tek is a success. If you're an amateur grower and have limited space it is the perfect setup! All you have to do is spray the casing and inside the lid once or twice a day and wahh-lahh! It could probably even withstand a couple days of neglect, especially if you make less holes in the lid to increase humidity.
Despite the original setup (the lid with polyfil in the holes) I changed the lid to small open-holes only (since the polyfil would interfere with the growth inside). The tiny holes were made with a soldering iron (poked through quite easily).

These trays were in open air just sitting in the middle of the room near the window - but you can easily just let them sit in a dark closet. Each 13"x9"x4" tray yields approximately 1-2oz of dried (legal) mushrooms.

Inoculate: 1-qt colonized WBS per tray.
Substrate: 95% Straw 5% Compost (cow manure) (pasteurized @ field capacity in oven, get substrate between 170-180F and maintain that temp for an hour)
Casing: a thin layer (about a finger tip) of 50/50. sometimes I add a little gypsum, but have never seen massive differences.







The size of these containers is about the max size i can go



I would like to use coir as my substrate Coir Tek

My question is how much substrate to i need to mix in with up to 10 half pint PF cakes?



Thanks you guys and much love!!!

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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: BillyBroadway]
    #15169289 - 10/02/11 09:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

just make sure you PC your jars, you cant just steam them like with BRF


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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: Honeydew]
    #15169304 - 10/02/11 10:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

shit, i dont have a pressure cooker, so because i am substituting the Dark Rye Flour for the Brown Rice Flour i will not be able to steam them?

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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: BillyBroadway]
    #15169466 - 10/02/11 10:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yes i believe so, because its basically like using rye itself, which you need to PC, i mean you could try it with just a couple jars and see if it works

if it does id be pretty excited


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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: Honeydew]
    #15170395 - 10/03/11 06:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Cakes are not meant to be spawned to bulk. Do grains/wbs instead.

However, since you're new to mushroom cultivation I'd recommend sticking to the pf-tek as a failed bulk grow hurts a lot more than a failed pf grow.


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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15170438 - 10/03/11 06:40 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Cakes are not meant to be spawned to bulk. Do grains/wbs instead.

However, since you're new to mushroom cultivation I'd recommend sticking to the pf-tek as a failed bulk grow hurts a lot more than a failed pf grow.




I would have to disagree..You can spawn to bulk
I'm curious as to why your substituting the BRF for the other stuff
But I'm using ground dog food ATM so more power to you
When you go t spawn your cakes, use a cheese grater on the shred size
Search for the SPAWN RATIO CALCULATOR and that should set you right my friend


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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: jremines]
    #15170492 - 10/03/11 07:00 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Lord_McLovin said:
Cakes are not meant to be spawned to bulk. Do grains/wbs instead.

However, since you're new to mushroom cultivation I'd recommend sticking to the pf-tek as a failed bulk grow hurts a lot more than a failed pf grow.




I would have to disagree..You can spawn to bulk




I did not say he could not. All I'm sayining is: If you know you want to do bulk, prepare a few jars with grains/wbs.
Why would you do cakes if you knew in advance that you want to use them as a spawn medium? That's nonsense.


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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15172232 - 10/03/11 03:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Im going with the PF cakes because i dont have a pressure cooker, so grain and wild bird seed are not an option for me.
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Lord_McLovin said:
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jremines said:
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Lord_McLovin said:
Cakes are not meant to be spawned to bulk. Do grains/wbs instead.

However, since you're new to mushroom cultivation I'd recommend sticking to the pf-tek as a failed bulk grow hurts a lot more than a failed pf grow.




I would have to disagree..You can spawn to bulk




I did not say he could not. All I'm sayining is: If you know you want to do bulk, prepare a few jars with grains/wbs.
Why would you do cakes if you knew in advance that you want to use them as a spawn medium? That's nonsense.







Im going with the PF cakes because i dont have a pressure cooker, so grain and wild bird seed are not an option for me.

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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: BillyBroadway]
    #15172260 - 10/03/11 03:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You can indeed spawn cakes to bulk.

I remember reading that brf is actually better spawn than grain if you have equal amounts of the two. more nutritious.

although i don't know about that because of the amount of innoc points when using grain spawn.

either way, you are fine spawning cakes to bulk if you want to. I didnt have a PC for a while and i had some killer high yielding casings using cakes.


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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: shroomiin]
    #15172342 - 10/03/11 03:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i have a 24QT solid grey rubbermaid. will this be a sufficient size for a mini monotub?

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Re: 10 Half Pint PF jars. [Re: BillyBroadway]
    #15172358 - 10/03/11 03:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i have a 24QT solid grey rubbermaid. will this be a sufficient size for a mini monotub?





Correction, its a 5 GAL Serilite.

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