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OfflinePolk
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Pinning before removal date. What to do? *DELETED*
    #15166337 - 10/02/11 10:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: Polk]
    #15166392 - 10/02/11 11:09 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I would birth them, personally. They are probly pretty consolitdated if they are pinning.

If you want to know what is considered fanning, look up the definition of the word "fanning." I'm 100% confident you can figure this out on your own. people talk about FAE all the time on this message board. Go read.


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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: trophycase]
    #15166398 - 10/02/11 11:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

do you still dunk a cake thats already pinning?

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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: Polk]
    #15166419 - 10/02/11 11:17 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Birth the ones that are pinning. If they are pinning they are ready to fruit. Fanning = taking the lid to your FC and waving it at the cakes to blow the old air out and allow for new air to get it.  That's why the call it fresh air exchange.  You only have to do it for 30 seconds, or less if you have a small FC. 

You can dunk a cake if it's already pinning.  See how light it feels.  If it still has some weight to it, then there's no need to dunk, if it feels light like a cork, then dunk it.  Just be careful not to knock off those pins.


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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: Polk]
    #15166426 - 10/02/11 11:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you, the help is greatly appreciated. This is my first grow and to see baby mushrooms popping out is pretty exciting.

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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: Polk]
    #15166427 - 10/02/11 11:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11551685#11551685

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You can dunk a cake with pins.  They rarely abort and usually double or triple in size during the dunk.
RR




Not trying to be an asshole, but seriously, use the search. It took me 5 seconds. Maybe you should read more before fruiting them anyway.


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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: carnage11]
    #15166450 - 10/02/11 11:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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carnage11 said:
You can dunk a cake if it's already pinning.  See how light it feels.  If it still has some weight to it, then there's no need to dunk, if it feels light like a cork, then dunk it.  Just be careful not to knock off those pins.





I don't see the need to feel it for weight. If you're just now birthing them, they shouldn't be dry. I don't ever go straight from jar to FC; I say give them a dunk.


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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: Polk]
    #15166502 - 10/02/11 11:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Well either way I just birthed it and it wasn't any different from the other cake so it just started its dunk. You're not being an ass, just an anal forum creeper that spends way too much time on the computer. Without people like you though I'd be waiting days for an answer so I thank you for that.

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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: Polk]
    #15166575 - 10/02/11 11:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, you did good by going ahead w/ the dunk and roll tek.  Cold dunk your cakes.. most will tell you it is personal preference, but there's a reason:
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Tap water is superior, and chlorine in the amounts contained therein is a good thing.  When the cakes are submerged during the dunk, bacteria is favored in the anaerobic conditions under water, and the chlorine helps to control it.

I'm getting my commercial mushroom farm certified organic in one of the strictest states to get organic certification, and there is no problem with spraying the fruiting areas with bleach solution, and/or using it in the soak water.  It's a long tested and safe method.  Consider it the lesser of two evils if you wish:  Bacteria, which can kill you, or chlorine which only tastes funny, but in small amounts is relatively harmless.

My cabin is very remote and off the grid.  Therefore, I have a 400 feet deep well that delivers pristine drinking water.  However, when dunking substrates, I add a cap full of bleach per bucket of water for the reasons stated above.  It doesn't impact the grow in a negative way at all.
RR



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Sorry friend, but cubensis fruits all season. It does not wait for cold weather. Folks in Texas and Florida are picking them now.  This is spring, not fall.  The purpose for dunking in the refrigerator is as stated, to keep bacteria under control during the dunk.  The bacteria survive the dunk, but they don't double their colony size every two hours, because the refrigerator protects the cake, just as it protects your food from rotting due to bacteria.

Cubensis fruits very well in the 70F-80F degree range.  I colonize all jars at room temperature, then keep at room temperature for the flushing cycle. There is no reduction of temperature at any time in any of my grows(edibles excluded)prior to first flush.  I do dunk casings in the refrigerator after first flush, but as stated above, this is not cold shocking.  I hope this has helped to clear up some of the misunderstanding.
RR



..esp if you don't clean our place often, or just generally concerned about contams.. don't overly worry though: properly consolidated cakes are pretty contam resilient, but successive flushes reduce that resilience.  Always be on watch, contams happen..

I'm assuming you used a syringe, which likely came from a spore print.  Syringes are also called MS (multispore).. moar infos:

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Meetzu said:
No. Every time you use spores it's MS. If you put spores from a large fruit on agar and work with them you will get many many strains (100s-1000s). Then you work on sectoring them and get it down to an isolate which is one strain of genetics
Fruits themselves, even when 'cloned' (a tissue sample taken from their inner stipe and grown out) will likely have multiple genetic strains that then have to be sectored out. However, cloning would be a quicker route (less genetic strains than MS) and one that you would be more likely to get the desired traits of that fruit because of the lower number of genetics to grow out and test.

Edit: it's a lengthy process. That's the reason when people find desirable isolates they save them for years through master slants.




So, if some jars start knotting/pinning before other, don't worry.  It's just genetics, some kids grow up quicker :thumbup: If it's a "popular" substrain, it's had some work done with it and the genetics might be better isolated.

moar: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10242476#10242476


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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: Polk]
    #15166595 - 10/02/11 11:50 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Polk said:
Well either way I just birthed it and it wasn't any different from the other cake so it just started its dunk. You're not being an ass, just an anal forum creeper that spends way too much time on the computer. Without people like you though I'd be waiting days for an answer so I thank you for that.




You would be waiting days because you are too lazy to use the search function. I don't spend too much time on the computer. I spend the time that I have on the computer efficiently, and find answers in 10 seconds instead of days.


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Re: Pinning before removal date. What to do? [Re: trophycase]
    #15166777 - 10/02/11 12:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I didnt read this whole thread, just the first couple posts.
But if they arent cobsolidated than dont birth them, especially if you are using tall half pints. Because if you are thats probably why they are pinning.

If you birth them before they cobsolidate than they will just sit in the fc until they consolidate and you will have to redunk them unless you want a horrible first flush.


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