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 infidelGOD
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 Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? 
#1516635 - 05/03/03 03:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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chodamunky
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 Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: infidelGOD]
#1517828 - 05/03/03 05:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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This war has made things worse.
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 Dogomush
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: chodamunky]
#1518701 - 05/04/03 02:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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nah.. not yet.. it could though.
If Iraq doesn't flourish in the next few years things'll be bad. People will be pissed off and bitter and they'll be looking for someone to blame. Children orphaned by American bombs will be vulnerable to extremist militant organizations. This is why war isn't the answer.. The key is synergy.. war could fit in there, but they better get their asses moving on the rest of it. The arabs need help.
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: Dogomush]
#1518793 - 05/04/03 03:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You really cant say yet. But in the long run, do I think it will? No. IF free elections are held in Iraq, ACTUAL free elections, the government is going to be an islamic extremist government, like in Iran.
I dont know what will happen then. I dont see how Bush can stand for it, but I dont see how they can rig elections either. Its all up in the air...
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#1519004 - 05/04/03 07:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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unless our government makes iiraq completely rely on us then iraq will become another wealthy country in the middle east that is against isreal thus against us...but knowing or "democratic" loving country we will make them become a mini US and rely on the US...
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Madtowntripper
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: JameZTheNewbie]
#1519818 - 05/04/03 06:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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A "democratic" government in Iraq will love the U.S.? I highly doubt this. Turkey isnt exactly our greatest friend, and they're the only Democracy remotely near the Middle East, discounting Israel for obvious reasons...
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: infidelGOD]
#1520203 - 05/04/03 09:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is not a yes and no question, IMO..... It depends on how far back you want to go.. Like if Bush had kept just talking a bunch of shit about Saddam and his pals, our "security" could possibly be at risk - if Bush and friends had just not mentioned Saddam at all and never messed with him one bit, I don't think there would be a security problem at all (well not from Saddam anyway)
But of course... I haven't really researched these things nearly enough to have any kind of gounded answer 
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infidelGOD
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: Strumpling]
#1520232 - 05/04/03 09:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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...there are actually two votes for yes... can't explain that one.
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: infidelGOD]
#1521338 - 05/05/03 09:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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They have gone and fucked up another country hooray.
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#1521352 - 05/05/03 09:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Turkey isnt exactly our greatest friend
They're close enough. That's why they've got away with having one of the most nightmarish human rights records on earth. Not to mention brutally invading and occupying Northern Cyprus for the last 27 years with not a peep from the US.
The problem is 90% of the Turkish population didn't agree with the US invading Iraq, so it's hard for the government to appear too subservient to Bush.
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Re: Did the war in Iraq enhance our security? [Re: Xlea321]
#1521970 - 05/05/03 03:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
The problem is 90% of the Turkish population didn't agree with the US invading Iraq, so it's hard for the government to appear too subservient to Bush.
It wasn't about apearances, it was about holding out for a fatter pay off. 
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