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OfflineDogWorld
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In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe?
    #1516411 - 05/03/03 02:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

in terms of yield, reliability, etc.


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: DogWorld]
    #1516425 - 05/03/03 02:15 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Substrate

1. Fresh mushroom compost.

2. Aged Horse/Cow manure Wheat Straw Combo

3. All others

Casing mix

Peat/Coir/Verm (pH tested & adjusted to 7.5

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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: DogWorld]
    #1516943 - 05/03/03 05:30 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

substrate
1. Horse poo
2. Cow shit and straw
3. Compost

casing material
1. Verm and Coco Coir
2. Peat, Verm and Oyster shell




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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: Roadkill]
    #1517619 - 05/03/03 03:08 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ummm, ok, how about adding smell to the list of considerations? I dont wanna use poo :frown:


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: DogWorld]
    #1517629 - 05/03/03 03:19 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

>Fresh mushroom compost.

Can you expand on this??


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: DogWorld]
    #1517634 - 05/03/03 03:22 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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ummm, ok, how about adding smell to the list of considerations? I dont wanna use poo :frown: 




The best bulk substrates all contain "poo" in one form or another. A manure / wheat straw based compost would have the least "poo" smell, as it is significantly bio/degraded.

Well aged & leached horse manure, has almost no "poo" smell, except a bit as you wet pasturize it.

If you want no poo at all, that about limits you to PF cakes, or straw. Straw (alone)is not all that great (one flush wonder & contam prone).

It takes poo to get shrooms like this.

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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: Legoulash]
    #1517638 - 05/03/03 03:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Fresh Mushroom Compost

Ya either have to make it yourself, or buy it from a reputable sourse.

It should have a C/N ratio of around 17 to 1, with N in the area of 2.6.

Aged manure, Wheat straw, Spent brewery grain & some forms of silage are the primary components of a fresh mushroom compost.

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    #1517650 - 05/03/03 03:34 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: DogWorld]
    #1518206 - 05/03/03 09:31 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

sub:
good zoo doo
cow pies that have been aged on a dry desert backroad for a few months
case:
peat/coir/oyster 5:5:2
peat/coir/verm/oyster 3:3:3:2
Even the perfect recipe relies on the success of other factors, though.




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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: Suntzu] * 1
    #1518212 - 05/03/03 09:35 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

As far as smell goes. . .the 'perfect cowpie' that is depicted in my avatar had absolutely no smell whatsoever.  Even when steeped in hot water for an hour.  It smelled like straw mixed with potting soil.  Well aged zoo doo has quite a bit of wood material in it, smells like rosebeds to me :smile: 


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: poke smot!]
    #1518253 - 05/03/03 10:00 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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I thought mushroom compost was spent mushroom soil. 




The cheap mushroom compost you buy in bags, for a couple bucks - in any garden supply place is SPENT mushroom compost. As in = used up. It is what is left -- after they harvest multiple flushes - off it.

FRESH MUSHROOM COMPOST  is what commercial mushroom growers in the USA cultivate over 10,000,000 pounds of mushrooms ON .............. annualy.

They would not use it, if it was not the BEST - most cost effective substrate in existance. It looks like this.

:grin:
It is made like this

This is what a commercial application looks like


Apply that..............to other mushrooms & you get mushrooms like this.

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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: DogWorld]
    #1518506 - 05/04/03 12:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Hey sixtango, my friend has taken a long break from growing, but someone just gave him a pint jar about 3/4 colonized. Its cubensis. I was just wondering if you could state your exact substrate and casing mixture...amount of each material used etc...

thanks man, he'll need this info


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: fatesrush]
    #1518583 - 05/04/03 01:27 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Mushroom compost is always the best for full scale *get your ass to the federal *pound you in the ass* prison" mushroom cult.


I find trays at over 5" in height and no less the 4" square to be perfect for the home grower using Brown rice, rye, WBS, etc with a casing of Vermiculite or similar. You can produce more then you would need for you and your buds in a large tupperware container in very stealth conditions.


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: DogWorld]
    #1518602 - 05/04/03 01:39 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Sun dried horse turds, blended and saute'ed  with wheat straw and then topped with verm, coir and a touch of oyster shell.  :laugh: :laugh:   


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: dog]
    #1519397 - 05/04/03 02:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Dogworld----aged poo that just by looking has a bit of white shit in it (good bacteria supposedly) has ABSOLUTELY NO SMELL TO IT!  use it only if it smells good :grin:  like fertilized ground.
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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: jakeholman]
    #1522079 - 05/05/03 04:18 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ok. someone is interested in the compost substrate, any suggestion for what to add to it or just a link to a geat tek that include no poo? thanks


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: salazare]
    #1522304 - 05/05/03 05:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

poo is the SHIT!!!!!!


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: jakeholman]
    #1530457 - 05/08/03 12:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

... did you read what i wrote?

thankx for the future info.


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: salazare]
    #1551243 - 05/15/03 03:34 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

where do you get FRESH mushroom compost?


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Re: In your opinion, whats the best substrate/casing recipe? [Re: _jamie_]
    #1551268 - 05/15/03 03:49 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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where do you get FRESH mushroom compost?




Yeah, where???


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