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Small mature mushrooms... any ideas?
    #15161084 - 10/01/11 03:03 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)



You will notice the bigger mushroom and then all the small ones. That was the only big one on that cake. I picked some small ones that had broken veils or near broken veils. I am grateful for what I have here but I would also like to hear ideas as to why I'm getting these smaller mature ones.

  - The cakes are pretty heavy, definitely not dry. It's possible they are too wet, would that cause smaller mushrooms?
  - FAE is good, fanned minimum of 10x a day. You will notice no fuzzy feet issues.
  - Light is a decent 6500k
  - Humidity is unknown. It was very high in the beginning but then I increased FAE to induce pinning. Obviously its not that low because the caps are not cracked and my digital meter that sits in the room is reading ~70%
  - The myc is an isolate although the isolate was not picked because of its vigor or size. I don't know the quality of the mushroom that was cloned, big or small, aggressive or slow growing.
 

So with that info the only variables that seem to stand out are over watering the cake and/or maybe I cloned a tiny mushroom and that big mushroom was just a freak while all the little ones closely match the clones.

Same thing happened on my other cake. One large mushroom. Many small ones. Can over watering cause small mushrooms?

Ideas?

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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: menelaus] * 1
    #15161111 - 10/01/11 03:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

This might have answers from the TC, lots of factors looks like

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6140851#6140851

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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: JaffyJaffar]
    #15161116 - 10/01/11 03:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: JaffyJaffar]
    #15161120 - 10/01/11 03:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

And another from rr....on this one he says water logged cakes can also be the problem

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10614586#10614586

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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: JaffyJaffar]
    #15161167 - 10/01/11 03:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Jaffy. I really appreciate it. Seems like a waterlogged cake is the culprit. If too much water is the problem then what is the solution? Will the water eventually find its way out through the mushrooms and via evaporation or is the cake pretty much ruined?

Slight bummer. My other cake had an epic pinset and it turned into a bunch of small mushrooms. Oh well more cakes on the way to mess around with

Edited by menelaus (10/01/11 04:09 AM)

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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: menelaus]
    #15162465 - 10/01/11 01:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



More baby mushrooms. 150+ grams wet off 3 cakes. 98% of them baby mushrooms.

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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: menelaus]
    #15178074 - 10/04/11 07:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I was hoping I could get some more opinions on why this cake is producing tiny mushrooms.



This was the second flush of that small mushroom cake. I still don't know if it's waterlogged and producing small mushrooms or if it's the genetics. The first mushroom this cake ever produced was a 5 inch long, thick healthy mushroom but after that it just kept producing these babies. The baby ones never grow much and then the veil breaks so I pick them. Don't mind the fuzzy feet I was away for 3 days so I couldn't fan them but the first flush I fanned 10-15 times a day.

Is it possible that I just cloned a tiny mushroom and that one large mushroom at the beginning of the grow was a freak? Or is it more likely the small mushrooms are produced by a waterlogged cake? All my other cakes from this isolate are producing tiny mushrooms but all my other cakes feel waterlogged (very heavy) as well so I have nothing to compare it against. Is there something I am not considering that could be the cause of these stupid tiny mushrooms?

I was going to make more LC based on this isolate but seeing the size of mushrooms it is consistently putting out makes me hesitant to move forward with tiny mushroom genetics.

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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: menelaus]
    #15178124 - 10/04/11 07:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Al else equal, it's probably the genetics.

But in MPE I come to prefer small dense mushrooms to huge hallow ones.
Best of Luck!


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Re: Small mature mushrooms... any ideas? [Re: TheMackologist]
    #15178189 - 10/04/11 08:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

TheMackologist said:
Al else equal, it's probably the genetics.

But in MPE I come to prefer small dense mushrooms to huge hallow ones.
Best of Luck!



:whathesaid:

That cake looks pretty cool. I would not be upset over that one, the best mushrooms I've over had were about that size. Little fuckers blew my mind.

The best part is the only way to know for sure if its genetics or not is to try again! What more fun than that?:rockon:

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