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Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed
    #1515878 - 05/02/03 09:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

A friend of a friend of a (...etc...) has confirmed that Copelandia Cyanescens fruits readily and quite well off cased rye grass seed.
Picks ofcourse will follow shortly.


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1515888 - 05/02/03 10:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:ooo: 


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Legoulash]
    #1517170 - 05/03/03 09:34 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517193 - 05/03/03 09:52 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Soon - but im preoccupied with the rising of Ps.Eucalypta from NSW in my garden and the rantings of Syd Barrett!!!


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1517214 - 05/03/03 10:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Aaaah Syd can wait ! The pics the pics haha...
Did your friend saw a difference in the shape of the cyans with this substrate ?
By the way, my english is poor...can you tell me the difference between rye grain and rye grass seeds ??? (thank you)


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517245 - 05/03/03 10:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Syd Barrett - the name is all i can say...
Picks very soon - pans were skinny, but with nice sized caps.
Rye grain is the seed or grain of Rye?? Its the stuff you can cook with... Rye grass seed is simply the seeds of garden grass - the stuff you sprinkel onthe dead spots on your lawn to get grass to grow.


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1517248 - 05/03/03 10:35 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

...so, the same substrate as mexicana ? That is more than interesting !!! Cause i have enough of this dung smell in my kitchen !!!! Great news !!!!


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517265 - 05/03/03 10:53 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Exactly...


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1517267 - 05/03/03 10:56 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!
(sorry for monopolising this thread but it is an earthquake here !!!!!!!)
Let's experiment it and change the shroomery's faq !!!!!


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517279 - 05/03/03 11:06 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

But ?! Am i the only one to be excited about that ?! Come on people, your impressions ! Let's applaude ! Let's have a party ! The Copelandia specie is becoming more easier to cultivate !!!


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517280 - 05/03/03 11:08 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yeah exactly! Straw is a pain in the arse and manure makes your girlfriend get very shitty when it pressuer cooks in your kitchen! RYe Grass seed is easy and if you have trouble with the moisture content, you can just use verm to maintain it.


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1517292 - 05/03/03 11:32 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ok, it's our private Cope thread Blue Meannie...but after all, it's normal..we are the only ones on the shroomery wearing Copelandia related names, huu...
And i love the Syd Barrett's albums too ! Especially "Barrett"...


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517350 - 05/03/03 12:23 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Wanna see those pics.....
I thought about this too....but never did anything..
Love to see your results:)
Good thread here....show me the money:)
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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: ralphster44]
    #1517353 - 05/03/03 12:25 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hehe...Ralph is here, now, the "Friends of the Copelandia Mushroom" club is complete !


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517366 - 05/03/03 12:36 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

LOL....you know that is my favorite:)



On there way to a full bloom:)

I am having a bit of trouble with this Phucket strain...
My go with the grass...see how that works..
Good post....

Pan lovers unite:)

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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: ralphster44]
    #1517381 - 05/03/03 12:47 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

beautifull !!! Thanks for sharing ! They looks like enoki (Flammulina Velutipes)mushrooms ! Yes, Copelandia shrooms needs more attention from the growers here, i think...! And this grass seeds experiment will give ideas to some people i know...


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517394 - 05/03/03 12:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey....you want to help me with this Phucket strain?
Ill send ya a syringe...
I dont have anymore prints left.....
Let me know...
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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: ralphster44]
    #1517422 - 05/03/03 01:07 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

hooo...nice offer ! :tongue: i think little amanita will be pleased to grow it ! I mean to help you...


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517446 - 05/03/03 01:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)



yes i know what you are,  you are a gigulo aunt, yes your a gigulo aunt.




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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: ODhaze]
    #1517462 - 05/03/03 01:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

no, i am an effervescing elephant...looking for grass seeds right now...


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517466 - 05/03/03 01:30 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1517476 - 05/03/03 01:42 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Print to you my friend:)
You are far away:)
That will not be a problem......
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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1517523 - 05/03/03 02:12 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I can't wait to see the pics too! :laugh: 


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: ralphster44]
    #1517783 - 05/03/03 05:01 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

The phuket strain is a 4-spored variety related more to Copelandia cambodginiensis and tropicalis. The cystidia have a thick line running vertically through the center. A trait shared by the two species mentioned, and not within cyanescens.

Glad to see they are succesful on Rye grass seed alone. I use ryegrass seed as a admixture with manure and perlite:vermiculite.

Still have not come across any 2-spored copelandias in circulation!!!


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    #1517804 - 05/03/03 05:11 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

By the way Copelandia lovers. I am almost complete compiling Digital pictures of all the Copelanandias in circulation in all their microscopic glory.




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    #1517820 - 05/03/03 05:21 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

ooooohh...what happens today ?! It's christmas at the Copelandia Club !!! Thanks for sharing, Ralph, you're the best...and Teonan...what did you waited to show us those highly interesting pics ?! Of course, we want to see it !!!  :grin: Thank you a lot !!! Wish i took pictures too..time to buy a digit camera... :laugh:


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1518954 - 05/04/03 06:36 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Copelandia counter culture crusaders??


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1519131 - 05/04/03 11:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

has anyone grown Copelandia Bispora ?
i have a wild Bispora print i want to try .
should i use the same growing perameters as cyans ?



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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1519153 - 05/04/03 11:38 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Bluemeanie....

No shit? (and I MEAN that.....your friend's friend's friend used no shit at all?)

Was the procedure to just start right out in the jars w sterilized/PC'ed rye grass seed, colonize the seed, then case......Or something different? Could you please share/ elaborate a bit on your friend's friend's friend's tek in terms of steps, rye grass seed moisture, or other useful info/ parameters ......thanks.....

I wonder if it is too big a leap to assume this would work also w Pan Trops....


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1521119 - 05/05/03 04:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:


(sorry for monopolising this thread but it is an earthquake here !!!!!!!)




I slept through it.....thats twice.....my life sux.....a friend had to call and wake me up but by then it was too late....


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Mike Elium]
    #1521239 - 05/05/03 06:15 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Well not really as the mushroom is supposed to be a pan trop - althought im sure it would have four-spored basidia making it technically not a trop.
It fruits readily.
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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1521297 - 05/05/03 07:29 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Ill post the fullte ch with the pics by friday




COOL....thanks......looking forward to the tek and pics !!!!!

It will also be interesting to learn if potency is affected by absence of poo.....do you have an expectation on that ?


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Mike Elium]
    #1532920 - 05/09/03 01:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

the pics ??? :tongue:


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    #1533831 - 05/09/03 07:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry mate - i dont have a plug in my computer to download the pics from my digicam - all i can do is scan the fruits - which is pointless because i cant demonstrate what they are growing on.
im off on holidays for a week - ill leave you with some old pics of my pans:


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    #1533835 - 05/09/03 07:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

oops:


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1533838 - 05/09/03 07:31 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

i promise ill get the photos downloaded when i get back :wink:


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1534534 - 05/09/03 02:04 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

yahoooooo  !!! :laugh: They are beautifull !!! They looks like regular Copes grown on dung, so i think there is no problem with the grass seeds...my growing friend is puting some grass seeds in water right now ! Any particular tips or does my friends stick to the regular copes tek ?
Thanks for all, this is a marvellous new for all the copelandias lovers  :laugh:


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: KOPELANDIAA]
    #1535757 - 05/09/03 10:26 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry - they are the ones grown off manure from the past - the grass-seed ones performed just as well though - photos in a week or so.


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1536571 - 05/10/03 09:01 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1536637 - 05/10/03 10:17 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Bluemeanie,

Don't forget to post your grass-seed tek w the pics !!!! Thx


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Mike Elium]
    #1536903 - 05/10/03 01:54 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey i gotta question, I saw plans for growing pans and the plastic sterlite tub they used had big holes in it stuffed with stuffing for air flow.. cOuld i do the same except cover the holes wit tyvek? got some envelpes today.. jojoba


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: jojoba]
    #1537228 - 05/10/03 05:17 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, Tyvek or Micron-type filters or Polyfill all perform the same function, impeding other "nasty" micro-organisms from getting to the substrate.


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Mike Elium]
    #1554404 - 05/16/03 04:59 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Where you at BM?


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: mycofile]
    #1554567 - 05/16/03 06:19 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

cheeky I know,  :blush:
but if anyone was feeling particularly public spirited I would love a p. cyan (or derivative) with which to play,
time to experiment with other species methinks. :smirk:
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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: metalchimp]
    #1557576 - 05/18/03 12:10 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Okay. I had to leave town for a week and the pans fruits were stunted due to lack of air exchange sa you can see:
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Soaked the rye grass seed for 24 hours, strain then mix with some verm until the maximum amount of water content was soaked up without pooling in the mixing bowl. Then this was sterilised in 350ml jars and innoculated with agar wedge. WHen colonised, cased with sterilised coco coir mixed with verm. Fruited withn two weeks, first flush was with smaller skinnier stems than manure, but second flush when i returned from abroad was about 20 of these little stunted guys as above.
Ill do it again, as i now know it works. Next flush if it performs i guarantee good photos!


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1606291 - 06/03/03 11:14 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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yeah exactly! Straw is a pain in the arse and manure makes your girlfriend get very shitty when it pressuer cooks in your kitchen! RYe Grass seed is easy and if you have trouble with the moisture content, you can just use verm to maintain it.
 



PC shit.....man...come on.  pasteurize 50/50 composted dung/straw mix ture in a 55 gallon drum OUTSIDE.  people people.  why why. :smirk:


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Jahson]
    #1607140 - 06/04/03 05:42 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for your c grade input.
What I meant was pced grains jars spawning bulk substrates... WHen you have grown them like these, let me know...


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1607343 - 06/04/03 09:45 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

any reason why they woudn't fruit on rye grain alone?


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Re: Pan Cyans on Rye Grass Seed [Re: comario2]
    #1609845 - 06/05/03 01:47 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

They do they just stay REALLY SMALL.
Cambodian cyan:
2inch- 3 inch tall
< 1/4 inch caps
stems about 2 mm thick

200 of them equals about 1 gram dry after 2 flushes, then the mean green comes calling and your asking yourself why you didn't just iNoculate a jar of manure:perlite/vermiculite.

The straight rye grass seed seems alittle more promising for the Manure aquisition challenged.

I guess a thourough investigation might be in order though, the STRAIN might have alot to do with it as well. Definetly worth a try to grow them on everything you got handy.



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    #1614240 - 06/06/03 10:54 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah Casings are required for good fruiting performance. I think that isolate i am using is redudant. Ill try another - this time two casings of manure and two of rye grass seed - then it should give us some better results...


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