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killing contam with the sun!!
    #15157184 - 09/30/11 09:31 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, so i wanted to start a new thread about this. I am experimenting in ways to kill contaminants with isolated and concentrated sun light..I hate typing so i will make this short..I used a piece of cardboard and cut a hole in it so i could ONLY hit the infected area with the sunlight and NOT the mycelium. but behind the hole i have a magnifying glass to concentrate the light...I understand the concept of throwing infected jars out, and i will. This experiment is more towards early prevention. I mean, this should work right? In theory it seems like it might work? I have found no info on the net about doing this...so i better ask some experts...peace


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: heresy]
    #15157239 - 09/30/11 09:45 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You should definitely try it and post your results and some pics.

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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: sk8fast]
    #15157282 - 09/30/11 09:59 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The very act of moving, and opening the jar will spread contamination across the entire medium. It will not work. Stick to ants with the magnifying glass.


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: Psychedelicious]
    #15157303 - 09/30/11 10:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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sk8fast said:
You should definitely try it and post your results and some pics.



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The very act of moving, and opening the jar will spread contamination across the entire medium. It will not work. Stick to ants with the magnifying glass.



Im not opening the jars...i don't need too...just burn through the glass...


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: heresy]
    #15157324 - 09/30/11 10:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

the problem with using a piece of cardboard to concentrate the light is that it will only be in the right spot for maybe 10 o 15 minutes.  the sun moves across the sky.
you would need to program something to move the cardboard in accordance with the sun to keep it on the contam only.

doesn't sound worth it to me  :shrug:


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #15157351 - 09/30/11 10:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

But shouldnt concentrating it with a mag glass for roughly 2 min be enough? i am gonna use multiple exposures for certain jars and record the results....all exposures being 2 min....i mean if i can burn a ant paper,plastic. i would expect i could kill it..shit...burn it inside the jar if i really wanted too.....


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: heresy]
    #15157515 - 09/30/11 11:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Neat idea, but the mason jars I have encountered are all bumpy with designs and things. I have to imagine that it would defuse the concentration of energy and make the outside of the jar a little hotter and maybe increase the internal temp but I don't think that energy will get concentrated to the contaminates behind the glass.

Worth a shot though, and you can't trust my word for it... I'm new here. lol

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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: heresy]
    #15157642 - 09/30/11 11:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think it would be wiser to put your efforts into avoiding contaminants rather than eliminating them once they appear, but I'd be interested in seeing what happens anyway. I would avoid exposing the contaminated jar to your growing area even if it appears like the experiment worked. In that case, if you did want to test it out I would do so far away from your grow area, maybe even outdoors. Speaking of which, you can always try an outdoor patch with your contaminated jars without the need to give them third degree burns.


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: FooMan]
    #15157762 - 09/30/11 12:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

chill in your living room, open the blinds an adjust it accordingly every 15 minutes while your watchin your favorite movie. the only way to find out is to do it (although there are probably a couple more variables that will effect this. i always wondered if a hot girls vagina pointed at the contam will make the contam co-operate) fuck the haters. goodluck

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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: yoimjohn]
    #15157933 - 09/30/11 12:39 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: maug]
    #15158112 - 09/30/11 01:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I have a flower pot colonizing outside that got hit with a little trich. I took it out of the shade into direct sunlight while keeping leaves over the healthy stuff and leaving the contamination exposed to the light and heat. After a few days of this, the trich receded greatly and the mycelium started creeping up around and on it.

I feel like a magnifying glass would be way overkill and kind of pointless. Especially considering that you can only get what is on the surface, and you have no idea how deep into your substrate that contamination has spread.


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: maug]
    #15158122 - 09/30/11 01:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'd like to see what happens. I've been burnt with a magnifying glass on more then a few occasions, it gives you a deeeeeep under the skin burn that doesn't actually show up right away. I think this could work. i have jars with no design on them so it is possible to find them. you could also try using a square glass so that the round edges don't break your light up as much

but like Guernica said, you have no idea how deep your contamination could have gone


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: Guernica]
    #15158158 - 09/30/11 01:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a flower pot colonizing outside that got hit with a little trich. I took it out of the shade into direct sunlight while keeping leaves over the healthy stuff and leaving the contamination exposed to the light and heat. After a few days of this, the trich receded greatly and the mycelium started creeping up around and on it.

I feel like a magnifying glass would be way overkill and kind of pointless. Especially considering that you can only get what is on the surface, and you have no idea how deep into your substrate that contamination has spread.



You live in cali, so I would like to ask this question quick. My little brother recently moved out there and says since its so windy up in the mountains people (including him) literally smoke bowls with a magnifying glass because it's hard to keep a lighter lit. Have you ever heard of this? A couple of his buddies from out there say it's true, I think they're playing some tom foolery.

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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: The Influence]
    #15158180 - 09/30/11 01:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a flower pot colonizing outside that got hit with a little trich. I took it out of the shade into direct sunlight while keeping leaves over the healthy stuff and leaving the contamination exposed to the light and heat. After a few days of this, the trich receded greatly and the mycelium started creeping up around and on it.

I feel like a magnifying glass would be way overkill and kind of pointless. Especially considering that you can only get what is on the surface, and you have no idea how deep into your substrate that contamination has spread.



You live in cali, so I would like to ask this question quick. My little brother recently moved out there and says since its so windy up in the mountains people (including him) literally smoke bowls with a magnifying glass because it's hard to keep a lighter lit. Have you ever heard of this? A couple of his buddies from out there say it's true, I think they're playing some tom foolery.



i use to live in southwest Minnesota and it is very very windy all the time (it doesn't help that i wear kilts) and i have used a magnifying glass lots of times to smoke bowls and light cigs and stuff


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: Honeydew]
    #15158378 - 09/30/11 02:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You don't have to live up in the mountains for it to be terrifyingly windy in California. Where I'm living right now, we get 18-wheelers flipping over on the freeway and stuff. It's no fun.
But yeah, I've definitely smoked with a magnifying glass. I've used a lens from some reading glasses before, it took a while, but it got the job done.


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: Guernica]
    #15158465 - 09/30/11 02:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I have a flower pot colonizing outside that got hit with a little trich. I took it out of the shade into direct sunlight while keeping leaves over the healthy stuff and leaving the contamination exposed to the light and heat. After a few days of this, the trich receded greatly and the mycelium started creeping up around and on it.




I've had myc overtake trich in jars that were left closed in the dark. Healthy, vigorous myc can overtake trich. I doubt the sunlight was what fixed the problem. Trich likes humidity and stale air. Leaving the trich exposed to an open air, low humidity environment was more likely the reason it receded.


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: FooMan]
    #15158530 - 09/30/11 02:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Im not sure if this has been said yet, but by the time you can see a contamination, especially trich, it has spread throughout the jar.
I dont think trying to "burn" up a specific spot will prevent it in other places of the jar.


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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: The Influence]
    #15158626 - 09/30/11 03:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Guernica said:
I have a flower pot colonizing outside that got hit with a little trich. I took it out of the shade into direct sunlight while keeping leaves over the healthy stuff and leaving the contamination exposed to the light and heat. After a few days of this, the trich receded greatly and the mycelium started creeping up around and on it.

I feel like a magnifying glass would be way overkill and kind of pointless. Especially considering that you can only get what is on the surface, and you have no idea how deep into your substrate that contamination has spread.



You live in cali, so I would like to ask this question quick. My little brother recently moved out there and says since its so windy up in the mountains people (including him) literally smoke bowls with a magnifying glass because it's hard to keep a lighter lit. Have you ever heard of this? A couple of his buddies from out there say it's true, I think they're playing some tom foolery.



Yep. I can verify this too. Not with a magnifying glass though. One of my friends used to always carry one of those Fushigi (or something like that) balls around and I'd used it to light cigarettes. I think that is the most helpful that stupid ball has ever been. Haha.

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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: OurSUBMARINEGo]
    #15158649 - 09/30/11 03:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thats crazy all these people have heard/done this before. He is my little brother so I used to take his lighters all the time, now I am going to mail him a keychain magnifying glass to make up for all the lighters.

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Re: killing contam with the sun!! [Re: The Influence]
    #15190642 - 10/07/11 08:45 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ok well, my conclusion to this is that it DOES kill contamination...obviously...but wont stop it from still colonizing the jar even after spot killing a contam. It seemed to have more affect on the blackish mold then the surrounding grey...obviously!..I would still say that if you find a small ISOLATED area of contam it IS possibly to stop it dead..but most likely if you have a contam, it's in most of the jar....So i scrapped the jars but i actually found a large patch of  mycelium so i collected spawn from a contam jar and transfered to a sterile jar and the mycelium is starting to spread(yay!)contam free so far!But its only been a couple days....


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