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KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn
    #15155190 - 09/29/11 08:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys,

This is our 3rd grow and I thought I'd share a KSSS multispore substrate that's just starting to fruit. Thanks to all the posts here that have made it possible.

8/6
1 qrt jar of PC'd rye inoculated with 2 mls KSSS spores

9/3
Jar ready to go. Substrate was 1 brick coir, 2 qrts verm 0.5 qrt gypsum, 5 qrts water (which was too much--had to squeeze out a ton of water), divided into 3 trays. Other 2 trays got contam'd so we'll just look at 1. Pasteurized by putting substrate in bag in a pot+water, brought water to boil for 5 min, then turned off heat and let cool.

The substrate was then mixed evenly with the grain in a 6qt shoe bin, lid placed back on and left in the dark.

9/15
KSSS tray was ready to go. We decided to "birth" the whole substrate out because dealing with sidepins was a big hassle in our last grow.

The fruiting chamber is a 40$ 4-tier from amazon. Coolmist v400 on bottom piping in fresh air from outside, running 1 min every 5 min. Small vent cut-out hole on the top, and the door zippers are left open. Fluorescent light on 12/12. Spare rack space is filled with trays of perlite. This seems to work very well keeping humidity at 90-100, but we also mist it 2-3x a day to replenish the lost water. There are also some trays of oysters and a pf tek cake sharing the space.


Here is the tray for the week just after birthing. Noticed lots of extra consolidation and hyphal knots forming



9/25
First pins. They are fat, and according to the older posts here, this can be typical of the KSSS strain.


9/27
Tons of hyphal knots all over the place, slowly turning into primordia.




Mushrooms are cute as a button


9/28
Cluster of primordia on the top

9/29 next day



These guys seem to be growing slowly.. is this typical?


Primordia everywhere



9/30 update
The cake is now overrun with tiny pins giving it the appearance of white warty toad skin ... and perhaps the hallucinogenic properties as well :Feelstrippyman:.

My hunch after reading some more old threads with similar pinsets is that ultra-high pin density is a function of 1) greenhouse/humidifier fc's which provide heavy FAE/humidity, and 2) birthing the substrate out from a 6 qt tray rather than fruiting right in the tray, b/c the 5 exposed sides were previously tightly (thus evenly) packed against the tray sides.


whole cake


closer


there are more pins, but all of them end up maturing to about 1 cm nut-size but stalling at that point. all the energy must be going into the babies. Is there any way to fix this?



I'll keep updating as the fruits continue to grow. Thanks for reading!

Edited by smegmapoop (09/30/11 08:59 PM)

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: smegmapoop]
    #15155215 - 09/29/11 08:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You are going to have the most amazing pinset in the history of the shroomery

This is truly amazing


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: Fungus_monk]
    #15155404 - 09/29/11 09:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: shrooms n things]
    #15155432 - 09/29/11 09:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:whacker:

:popcorn:


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: Honeydew]
    #15155800 - 09/29/11 10:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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That's serious

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: scifipirate]
    #15155815 - 09/29/11 10:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

scifipirate said:
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That's serious




Word. o.o

Edited by SimplyX (09/29/11 10:50 PM)

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: SimplyX]
    #15155830 - 09/29/11 10:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I absolutely can not wait to see how this moves along in the next few days!


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: SimplyX]
    #15155835 - 09/29/11 10:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: Rafiikii]
    #15155860 - 09/29/11 11:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:Awemush: That would be sweet if those all matured... This will be one EPIC pinset.


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: trophycase]
    #15155931 - 09/29/11 11:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

they won't


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: SexySmurff]
    #15156029 - 09/29/11 11:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I'm hoping that most of them will stay as pins so they'll grow out over a few flushes rather than one, although it'd be pretty gnarly if they ALL grow at once!

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: smegmapoop]
    #15160013 - 09/30/11 09:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

update in main post

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: smegmapoop]
    #15166202 - 10/02/11 10:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:eek:
Will be coming back, to see how it ends.


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: NeuroFunk]
    #15166253 - 10/02/11 10:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Beautiful.:popcorn:


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: Masticore]
    #15167455 - 10/02/11 02:46 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I wish I could help you with those stalling mushies... I really don't know what the deal is. I hope this ends in some good porn though. :thumbup:


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: trophycase]
    #15167497 - 10/02/11 02:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish I could help you with those stalling mushies




That's a good sized substrate but there's no way it could support all those fruits, but it's a very even pinset.

Edited by scifipirate (10/02/11 02:58 PM)

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: scifipirate]
    #15185829 - 10/06/11 10:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

So how does it look by now?


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15186085 - 10/06/11 11:40 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:congrats:


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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15186694 - 10/06/11 01:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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So how does it look by now?





im pretty sure it contamed :frown:. they started another thread about a purple spot

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Re: KSSS log. rye to coir/verm, greenhouse FC. primordia porn [Re: shrooms n things]
    #15187367 - 10/06/11 04:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yup, it contam'd. More pins came out, but none grew past a small nut-size and it looked like the dark purple mold was taking over much faster than the pins were growing, so it was tossed outside. This pinset was cool to see, but I don't think it's worth repeating given that the substrate probably wouldn't have supported many large fruits anyway. I wouldn't have minded harvesting hundreds of little nuggets, maybe coat them in chocolate, mixed with granola like little magic raisinets :smile:.

I don't know if the contam is related to the pinset or stalled growth. I have had contam appear in previous trays before but the fruits kept growing just fine. As mentioned in the grow log, the coir/verm substrate was far too wet, and during spawning there was a heat wave so the substrate temperatures were probably 85-90 during the day. Probably cultivated a mold party.

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