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OfflineBubble25
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First time - dosage advice needed
    #1506834 - 04/30/03 04:55 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Hi everyone, sorry if this is on the site somewhere else, or Im being a bit dumb. Im going to do shrooms for the 1st time, Ive read all the advice and warning etc and Im clued up about all that, but how many fresh mushrooms should I take. Im growing them myself. I can find loads of stuff about dried mushrooms but no dosage for fresh mushrooms. I only want a light trip 1st time.
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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: Bubble25]
    #1507087 - 04/30/03 08:57 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Personally, I'd make sure that you're with comfortable people, in a comfortable place, and then take about 15-20g fresh shrooms (if they're psilocybe cubensis). This won't be a 'light' trip, but providing the Set and Setting are right it should allow you to experience the shrooms well.

Oh and you'll have a great time :laugh:


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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: Bubble25]
    #1507656 - 04/30/03 12:52 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

2 grams dry... would be an excellent dose.. not to strong, but enought to feel their power :smile: 

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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: HidingInPlainSight]
    #1509493 - 04/30/03 10:12 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

yeah go for about 20 grams wet

thats just equal to 2 grams dry


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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1509818 - 04/30/03 11:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I've been wondering this same question myself, cuz even thoughI think i'm prepared enough for a level 3 or so, but people say not to go over a level 2 your first time, and I've gotta listen to the voices of experience

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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
    #1509970 - 05/01/03 12:42 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Same here. Thinking about taking 3.5 for my first shroom experiece. Done acid once so I know the basics i guess? Is that too much for the first time?


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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: LostMetropolis]
    #1510026 - 05/01/03 12:53 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I'd go for 3.5 if I were you

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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: zeta]
    #1510407 - 05/01/03 03:48 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

So it shall be.  :smirk:


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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1510475 - 05/01/03 04:49 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

yeah go for about 20 grams wet

thats just equal to 2 grams dry




If i use the Shroomery Dosage Calculator i get the following results:

(cubensis)
level 1 = 6g fresh or 0,9g dried
level 2 = 10g fresh or 1,5g dried
level 3 = 17g fresh or 2,6g dried
level 4 = 26g fresh or 4g dried
level 5 = 36g fresh or 5,3g dried

edit: and 20g fresh = 3,3g dried

Do you think(from experiences) these ratios are correct?


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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: Annom]
    #1510919 - 05/01/03 09:49 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

thanks a lot everyone - the table showing the ratio for fresh to dried is exactly what I was looking for!!!

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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: Bubble25]
    #1514253 - 05/02/03 08:18 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

it depends so much on the potency of the mushrooms though
I've had less than a gram dried that fucked me up to the point where I couldn't walk or talk for hours


Are fresh more potent than dried? Anyone have preferences?

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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: Annom]
    #1514365 - 05/02/03 09:25 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

dried mushrooms are 1/10 of their wet wait though... so 6 grams wet wouldn't equal .9 dried, it'd equal .6 dried. 36grams fresh is just 3.6 dried.

if you eat 36 grams fresh your probly not gonna have a level 5 trip maybe high level 3 or even 4.

and as for eating 3.5g if you think you can handle it go for it. my first bad trip however was only off about 3.2 grams, so just make sure you got set and setting perfect


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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1514707 - 05/02/03 11:48 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

So the Shroomery Dosage Calculator isn't correct? :confused: 

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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: Annom]
    #1514808 - 05/02/03 12:40 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

If anything, I think the dosage calculator slightly underestimates what you need. I've been checking the calculator before every trip just to compare what I experience with it's estimates.

For a nice sustained 2, I'm finding about 15 wet g's to be right...the calculator says 9g's. Now, with 9 g's I might have peaked at 2 but the trip moved along at 1 the rest of the time. Just right for a bright, relaxed, if unspectacular, afternoon.

Now it can vary by your body or mushies I s'pose, that's why I keep track for myself so that I can try and zero in on the experience I'm looking for. There's not much more disconcerting than going for 3 and finding yourself out on 5...and nothing more disappointing hoping for 4 but getting a 2. I've been on both ends....and in the final analysis the numbers melt away and you live with the experience you get.

be well

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Re: First time - dosage advice needed [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1514883 - 05/02/03 01:04 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

dried mushrooms are 1/10 of their wet wait though... so 6 grams wet wouldn't equal .9 dried, it'd equal .6 dried. 36grams fresh is just 3.6 dried.

if you eat 36 grams fresh your probly not gonna have a level 5 trip maybe high level 3 or even 4.

and as for eating 3.5g if you think you can handle it go for it. my first bad trip however was only off about 3.2 grams, so just make sure you got set and setting perfect




Will do. The one and only time I tripped, I did acid and was in the worst possible environment imaginable. It was a party which had been going all night (which all night I had been sober), I was in a very pissed off mood, finally got some just as morning came and everyone else at the party was falling over cracked out, and on top of that I had no idea what it was going to do to me. So yea, I was pretty much fucked. Bad bad trip. Havent touched the stuff since.

Learned my lesson the hard way though, won't make that mistake again. I think I can handle 3.5. I've done my research and know basically what to expect and how to handle it. BTW, shrooms are supposed to be more "earthy" than cid right?


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